Israel

To get bogged down in the minutiae of this is also a suckers trap

The better question is: what American interest does support a country of 7 million have against losing support from multiple continents with 600+ million?

Do they share our language or history? Nope
Do they share our strategic interests? Nope
Do they send troops to fight in our wars? Nope
Do they pay us tribute? Nope
Do we share common enemies? Not before they were created in the first place

The truth is we prop up this Leftist, socialist, militarist fantasy park that attacks its neighbors constantly, creates enemies, subverts our politics, and tries to DRAG US into their wars because:
American Jews are rich, our politicians love their donations, and the military-industrial complex loves to sell them weapons at US taxpayer expense
 

Next Day Err

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To get bogged down in the minutiae of this is also a suckers trap

The better question is: what American interest does support a country of 7 million have against losing support from multiple continents with 600+ million?

Do they share our language or history? Nope
Do they share our strategic interests? Nope
Do they send troops to fight in our wars? Nope
Do they pay us tribute? Nope
Do we share common enemies? Not before they were created in the first place

The truth is we prop up this Leftist, socialist, militarist fantasy park that attacks its neighbors constantly, creates enemies, subverts our politics, and tries to DRAG US into their wars because:
American Jews are rich, our politicians love their donations, and the military-industrial complex loves to sell them weapons at US taxpayer expense
Losing the kind of military and intelligence connections we have with the state of Israel would be a huge setback. We can currently do whatever the hell we want with Israel as our friend. We have all kinds of prepositioned military assets there and allows us to project strength much easier.

I don’t think you are fully understanding the benefits of the American/Israeli alliance.
 

Next Day Err

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Palestine isn't a separate country. Which of those countries struck first? Did Lebanon get attacked or did terrorist groups within Lebanon get attacked. The others? Hardly constitutes a belligerent foreign policy.
If memory serves Mossad had a lot to do with monkey-wrenching the Iran nuclear program years ago to buy us all more time. I’m thankful for their expertise, personally.
 

vantexan

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If memory serves Mossad had a lot to do with monkey-wrenching the Iran nuclear program years ago to buy us all more time. I’m thankful for their expertise, personally.
And there's a reason for that. Iran has repeatedly said that they will destroy Israel. To give them nuclear weapons would be extremely foolish.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
To get bogged down in the minutiae of this is also a suckers trap

The better question is: what American interest does support a country of 7 million have against losing support from multiple continents with 600+ million?

Do they share our language or history? Nope
Do they share our strategic interests? Nope
Do they send troops to fight in our wars? Nope
Do they pay us tribute? Nope
Do we share common enemies? Not before they were created in the first place

The truth is we prop up this Leftist, socialist, militarist fantasy park that attacks its neighbors constantly, creates enemies, subverts our politics, and tries to DRAG US into their wars because:
American Jews are rich, our politicians love their donations, and the military-industrial complex loves to sell them weapons at US taxpayer expense
You got a problem?

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Losing the kind of military and intelligence connections we have with the state of Israel would be a huge setback. We can currently do whatever the hell we want with Israel as our friend. We have all kinds of prepositioned military assets there and allows us to project strength much easier.

I don’t think you are fully understanding the benefits of the American/Israeli alliance.
We give them more intel than they give us, but the bigger question is why do we need any of their intel at all?

We literally would have ZERO enemies in the Middle East were it not for Israel, so we need them for something that wouldn't even be happening if it weren't for them? That's called a hustle

I wrote my college thesis on the IDF so spare me the "hurr durr u just don't understand"
 

Next Day Err

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We literally would have ZERO enemies in the Middle East were it not for Israel
Iran and company wants to wipe out Israel AND the United States. If we backed out of our support for Israel then Iran would claim victory and turn their guns solely on us and our other Mid East allies. They’ll move the goalposts.
 

vantexan

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We give them more intel than they give us, but the bigger question is why do we need any of their intel at all?

We literally would have ZERO enemies in the Middle East were it not for Israel, so we need them for something that wouldn't even be happening if it weren't for them? That's called a hustle

I wrote my college thesis on the IDF so spare me the "hurr durr u just don't understand"
No enemies at all in the Middle East?
 
Iran and company wants to wipe out Israel AND the United States. If we backed out of our support for Israel then Iran would claim victory and turn their guns solely on us and our other Mid East allies. They’ll move the goalposts.
We assassinated their leader, held them under a puppet dictatorship for decades, and still 95% of their gripe with us is we support Israel

Irana govt would have been overthrown decades ago if we didn't take every chance we could to antagonize them, the Iranian people by and large hate their govt, but they hate Israel more
 
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