It's time. What is the outcome of the election going to be

[wide load]

Well .. it sure looks like it will be up to Canada like the last election...

It won’t matter about Canada

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It won’t matter about Canada

 

[MyTripisCut]

that low % turnout in the USA and the even lower % turnout in Canada sends a very interesting message to UPS Management as to how weak internally the Teamsters are. There was no local whose % turnout was acceptable... Good luck organizing Amazon and Federal ......over and out

It’s not just UPS teamsters that can vote. UPS doesn’t know what percentage of their employees voted.


So, Kiss off.


Helping slightly.

 

[DELACROIX]

that low % turnout in the USA and the even lower % turnout in Canada sends a very interesting message to UPS Management as to how weak internally the Teamsters are. There was no local whose % turnout was acceptable... Good luck organizing Amazon and Federal ......over and out

The only people that matter are the ones who voted, it would be fair to say that with last three elections (2011 / 20 %...2016 / 17 % and 2021 / 15 %) voter participation... guarantee that the same members voted on all three and the contracts... those declining numbers could be contributed to retirees.

We all forget it was not a UPS only election, the other collective bargaining units were probably more apathetic. It was a leadership issue not a rank and file one...I still remember that when they ousted Carey and Hoffa was placed in office the Company statement about they could work with him, and work with him they did. I even have doubts if Hoffa was ever in charge...Hall might of been the one behind the curtain pulling the strings.

This election return was no surprise to anyone...even the Company knew that they will be dealing with a younger, smarter negotiating committee in the 2023 contract. The overwhelming landslide is a clear indicator of a rank and file support, I expect that there will be distributing of power to the local unions, none of this big brother directives from the ivory tower.

We will have to see if the Oz crew will want to start early on the next contract.. This COVID pandemic and it’s effect on our work environments and our economy will drive improvements in starting wages, healthcare and pension equity.

 

[Cowboy Mac]

The only people that matter are the ones who voted, it would be fair to say that with last three elections (2011 / 20 %...2016 / 17 % and 2021 / 15 %) voter participation... guarantee that the same members voted on all three and the contracts... those declining numbers could be contributed to retirees.

We all forget it was not a UPS only election, the other collective bargaining units were probably more apathetic. It was a leadership issue not a rank and file one...I still remember that when they ousted Carey and Hoffa was placed in office the Company statement about they could work with him, and work with him they did. I even have doubts if Hoffa was ever in charge...Hall might of been the one behind the curtain pulling the strings.

This election return was no surprise to anyone...even the Company knew that they will be dealing with a younger, smarter negotiating committee in the 2023 contract. The overwhelming landslide is a clear indicator of a rank and file support, I expect that there will be distributing of power to the local unions, none of this big brother directives from the ivory tower.

We will have to see if the Oz crew will want to start early on the next contract.. This COVID pandemic and it’s effect on our work environments and our economy will drive improvements in starting wages, healthcare and pension equity.

The distribution of power to the local only helps us if the local running well. Local elections matter too.

 

[DELACROIX]

The distribution of power to the local only helps us if the local running well. Local elections matter too.

Also remember that the entire OZ team won every position of power in the states, everybody is on board except maybe Canada.

 

[Ou812fu]

that low % turnout in the USA and the even lower % turnout in Canada sends a very interesting message to UPS Management as to how weak internally the Teamsters are. There was no local whose % turnout was acceptable... Good luck organizing Amazon and Federal ......over and out

It was far from a low turnout..
Personnel structure. UPS employs approximately 444,000 staff: 362,000 in the U.S. and 82,000 internationally.


1 out of 40 are management. So somewhere around 300000 have the possibility to vote... Over 200000 voted. Which is 2/3 of the voter group.

Oopppsss just found this.. UPS employs 260,000 Teamsters, so only 60000 didn't vote...

 

[Whither]

It was far from a low turnout..
Personnel structure. UPS employs approximately 444,000 staff: 362,000 in the U.S. and 82,000 internationally.


1 out of 40 are management. So somewhere around 300000 have the possibility to vote... Over 200000 voted. Which is 2/3 of the voter group.

Oopppsss just found this.. UPS employs 260,000 Teamsters, so only 60000 didn't vote...

You're forgetting, we UPS Teamsters make up about 1/4 of the total Teamster membership. It was poor turnout.

 

[Coldworld]

You're forgetting, we UPS Teamsters make up about 1/4 of the total Teamster membership. It was poor turnout.

Pretty sad when there were locals with 6,7,8k members and only a few hundred voted….so stupid.

 

[542thruNthru]

Pretty sad when there were locals with 6,7,8k members and only a few hundred voted….so stupid.

Where the hell have you been?

 

[Coldworld]

Where the hell have you been?

Lol… just taking a break. I was checking out the west coast numbers and your local was almost split down the middle…you surprised by that?? I thought they would be getting more votes in SoCal but the OZ slate held their own.

 

[542thruNthru]

Lol… just taking a break. I was checking out the west coast numbers and your local was almost split down the middle…you surprised by that?? I thought they would be getting more votes in SoCal but the OZ slate held their own.

Actually not very surprised.

 

[Seymour Packages]

Local 804. 35%

 

[boxerdan]

What local high the highest turnout? The Hollywood local had over 30% almost all for Oz.

295 looked like the highest turnout of an IBT local with 44% (95% for Varima).

 

[WTFm8]

It was far from a low turnout..
Personnel structure. UPS employs approximately 444,000 staff: 362,000 in the U.S. and 82,000 internationally.


1 out of 40 are management. So somewhere around 300000 have the possibility to vote... Over 200000 voted. Which is 2/3 of the voter group.

Oopppsss just found this.. UPS employs 260,000 Teamsters, so only 60000 didn't vote...

That’s a lot of math and research to fail to realize the counts weren’t just UPS, it was for ALL Teamster members regardless of company.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That’s a lot of math and research to fail to realize the counts weren’t just UPS, it was for ALL Teamster members regardless of company.

I voted three times

 

[boxerdan]

That’s a lot of math and research to fail to realize the counts weren’t just UPS, it was for ALL Teamster members regardless of company.

not to mention that in RTW states a substantial amount of upsers might not be teamsters.

Speaking of which, I'd expect the turnout to be higher in RTW states, seeing as 100% of members choose to join the union, whereas here a good deal of the membership's only interaction with the union is through dues deduction.

 

[Coldworld]

The railroad teamsters had a pitiful turnout which doesn’t surprise me…wife’s uncle was an engineer before he retired and he said that they weren’t that excited when they became teamsters…

 

[Coldworld]

I liked the statement that Sean O’Brien put out on the website after the slate won…the words “militant” and “full contact” got my attention…hopefully he will follow through with the tough talk.

 

[I have been lurking]

I voted three times

You tossed them in the FedEx box