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DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
No, I'm saying the stock is dog shet and it was only offered to the rank and file as a leverage

In 1995 (eliminating the Thrift Plan, 6 in, 6 match.). The option to purchase UPS stock using the only the interest you accumulated when you were in that plan. That was then rolled into an IRA set up for retirement, same rules snd penalties as a current 401k.

Two years later the Company’s attempt to take over all our pensions nationwide.

I could be that the Company was participating a Strike in “97” thinking that the rank and file who attained UPS Stock would fall for it. They were caught off guard when Carey didn’t put it up for vote.

You are probably right..it was used as a leveraging tool. They sure didn’t do it out of kindness, suddenly they felt guilty by leaving their “help” out.

Remember that there is two types of UPS Stock back then. A and B, guess who kept the premium?
 

pkgdriver

Well-Known Member
In 1995 (eliminating the Thrift Plan, 6 in, 6 match.). The option to purchase UPS stock using the only the interest you accumulated when you were in that plan. That was then rolled into an IRA set up for retirement, same rules snd penalties as a current 401k.

Two years later the Company’s attempt to take over all our pensions nationwide.

I could be that the Company was participating a Strike in “97” thinking that the rank and file who attained UPS Stock would fall for it. They were caught off guard when Carey didn’t put it up for vote.

You are probably right..it was used as a leveraging tool. They sure didn’t do it out of kindness, suddenly they felt guilty by leaving their “help” out.

Remember that there is two types of UPS Stock back then. A and B, guess who kept the premium?
I believe the shares were A and if you sold they changed in to B shares. I dont believe there was any monetary difference in them. The only difference was A had 10 voting shares and B one. Takeover prevention I suppose. Anybody else?
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
We don't want a pushover for a leader....we have a guy fighting to right the wrongs of past administration PLUS get us the extra WE DESERVE. Or do you want him to be a chump with no backbone and have all of us continue to get run over & trampled?

Company has known for more than a year now what was coming and things would be different this time around. They were told 8/1 things MUST BE IN PLACE. So that means a solid contract needed to be put together by today so it can have ample time to be constructed and presented to membership for vote PRIOR to deadline.

UPS evidently jerked around too long (no surprise) and so this is where we are and what it's come to.

I personally don't want anymore extensions granted and working under one to give them more time to think it over, now we give them all they can handle. And screw the retro check game....that's all silly BS and like a "forced savings". You are not getting anything extra that you didn't earn and work for.
We don't know if he is a chomp or a sucker nobody knows what ups has offered or what we asked for, until we know the numbers we can't say either way
 

MECH-II

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vvv

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We don't know if he is a chomp or a sucker nobody knows what ups has offered or what we asked for, until we know the numbers we can't say either way
I do....we'll be fine and have solid gains. The question is how much/how good.

Last crew in charge didn't even remotely try to negotiate for us and to better our overall situation.

I personally am not worried one bit whatsoever.
 

Wontmake9.5

My job is fun
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I’ll get probably slaughter here for this but let’s talk about part timers. It’s a :censored2:ing part time job. You are not suppose to have a livable wage doing part time hours.I worked 2 jobs for 9 years to support my family until I went full time. Started at 8.50 unloading trucks, I don’t get all this they deserve 25/hr Bs. I don’t think you should make a living wage working part time hours. There was a guy complaining on a fb ups site that he has 30 something years and get $2500 pension or something and is not happy about it. Wtffff Anyways yea
 
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View attachment 436511I’ll get probably slaughter here for this but let’s talk about part timers. It’s a :censored2:ing part time job. You are not suppose to have a livable wage doing part time hours.I worked 2 jobs for 9 years to support my family until I went full time. Started at 8.50 unloading trucks, I don’t get all this they deserve 25/hr Bs. I don’t think you should make a living wage working part time hours. There was a guy complaining on a fb ups site that he has 30 something years and get $2500 pension or something and is not happy about it. Wtffff Anyways yea
Well it definitely should be making a little bit more

What's fair? I don't know
 

Wontmake9.5

My job is fun
Well, it has to be enough to get them to come into the door. Otherwise we’re the ones doing it all.
I guess it depends what they are after.. I looked at a part time job as school.. part time was highschool. Driving 4 years was college and top out was masters basically.. I also had a family so insurance was more important than what I was making an hour.. maybe they want a raise and don’t care about insurance idk. But even at 20/hr with the benefits they will receive plus the chance to go full time should be enough for most. But people want to get stuff without nothing. I see it everyday all these young drivers are getting fired for stupid things bc they don’t care about their job. And I don’t think they care bc they didn’t put in their times like we did. In my hub you had to work 7+ years to go full time. And once you made it you made sure you did everything right because you appreciated the hell out of the job.
 

DOK

Well-Known Member
Can someone please leak out what was the Union counteroffer? We all want to see it.
In this day and age of “leakers” it’s disappointing we don’t have one from in the negotiations, management or union. I mean you have people leaking defense secrets, fbi leakers etc, stuff that’s way more important than these negotiations. Come on people, leak!
 
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