Thanks for the flame bait.
1) There are reports from members claiming they didn't get a ballot. Are you willing to reverse your opinion if it's discovered that MANY members could not vote or their vote was disqualified after the election for some reason?
2) I find it hard to believe that with UPS management basically threatening to the inside workers that if they didn't vote Yes they wouldn't get a certain raise, that these workers didn't vote. There was a massive effort to get members to vote. If they could have gotten nonmembers to vote, they probably would have.
Does anyone know how the union determines if someone is "eligible" to vote on a contract? How do we know the percentages of eligible voters who voted if we don't have guidelines for who is eligible to vote on contracts?
From the IBT election rules:
Article V
ELIGIBILITY TO VOTE IN DELEGATE AND INTERNATIONAL OFFICER ELECTION
1.
Rules for Determining Voter Eligibility
To be eligible to vote in the election for delegate, alternate delegate, or International Officers, a member must have his/her dues paid up through the month prior to the month in which the election is held. No member whose dues have been withheld by his/her employer for payment to the Local Union pursuant to his/her voluntary authorization provided for in a collective bargaining agreement shall be declared ineligible to vote by reason of a delay or default in the payment of dues by the employer to the Local Union. Persons eligible to vote under this rule shall include, but not necessarily be limited to, the following:
(a) Each person who is otherwise a member in good standing and whose dues are paid through the month prior to the month in which ballots are counted;
(b) Under and in accordance with Article X, Section 5(c), of the IBT Constitution, each member otherwise in good standing whose dues record does not reflect that his/her dues have been paid through the month prior to the month in which ballots are counted, who pays his/her dues by checkoff, and whose employer has remitted dues for him/her in the last remittance made by such employer, provided that such remittance was received within ninety (90) days of the date on which the ballots are counted;
(c) Each newly initiated member who is not in good standing solely because he/she has not fully paid his/her initiation fees, who pays his/her dues and initiation fees by check-off, and who has been employed in excess of six (6) calendar months; and
(d) Each member (1) whose employment is seasonal, (2) who works in the seasonal food industry, (3) who is a member of a Local Union where ten percent (10%) or more of the membership is employed by a seasonal food industry employer, (4) who worked during some period in the twelve months prior to the election, and (5) who paid his/her dues through the last month of their employment.
This applies to elections, but what are the rules for contract votes?
and thought you had it all figured out. Take it like a man and take ownership for your miscalculation. You guys are the ones acting like kids. You don’t listen to reason and then try to justify it by lashing out at me or blaming the IBT.
