LGBTQ

[Integrity]

You keep running back to drag shows because that’s your little talking point, I get it.
But that’s not what I’m discussing here, that isn’t the issue I take with your opinion. I agree with you.
The argument is you suddenly trying to play semantics between attraction and sexuality when it comes to children’s entertainment. The argument is you find same sex attraction offensive to be shown, but don’t mind heterosexuality being shown in that same way.

That’s why you are now taking this absurd stance of movies shouldn’t show any sexualities. Snow White, Cinderella, Shrek, hell basically every children’s movie is now immoral and sexualizing children by your new definition.

Seems like a fair and balanced point of view to me.

Seriously? Comparing movies geared towards children as equivalent to showing homosexual drag queen shows is fair and balanced?

I do believe that if you read carefully you would see that he agreed with your point on this specific comparison.

That was my take at least.

Peace

No, his argument was I was hypocritical in condemning drag queen shows but was fine with kids seeing movies like Snow White that are heterosexually oriented. That by my own definition I should condemn such movies as much as drag queen shows because they're about sexuality. He was equating attraction between men and women as sexuality so it must be condemned as much as I would condemn drag queen shows. It's a false equivalency.

Didn’t see it that way.

Maybe he will follow up with a rebuttal or explanation.

@Integrity

This is the flow of discussion.

Not interested in a circular discussion.

Not following you.

Please explain your points.

Plain and simple works best for me,

Thanks.

 

[vantexan]

Don’t think I said that. You just grappling with your hypocrisy.

@Integrity

 

[vantexan]

I don’t see you rallying against a prince kissing a princess. It’s only once it’s prince/prince princess/princess that you people take issue. Even the most orthodox people will show their kids Adam and Eve, examples of heterosexuality.
It’s also important to teach your kids sexual boundaries early, if someone tries to look at them naked or touch them somewhere that’s illegal they should know to tell you. You should also be teaching them not to do that to others.

Kids are gonna be taught sexuality from a young age, it’s part of being human. You just want to, in vain, try to remove being gay from being human.

@Integrity

 

[vantexan]

Children are already exposed to sexuality. Heterosexuality to be exact.

@Integrity

 

[vantexan]

You couldn't be more wrong. If schools were putting on shows of men and women acting and speaking in suggestive, provocative, and lewd ways I'd demand the people responsible to be fired. If you're 18 and want to go see a drag queen show that's your business. Subjecting kids to it in any kind of setting is wrong. And comparing the kind of indecency that goes on in strip joints and drag shows to Snow White, etc is ludicrous. Your problem is you're an angry young man who sees oppression of gays in everything. Grow up.

@Integrity

 

[Integrity]

@Integrity

Said what???

This is not clear please show the whole conversation please.

 

[vantexan]

Said what???

This is not clear please show the whole conversation please.

I'm not jumping through hoops for you. You're supportive of gay rights so nothing I say will register with you because I'm not. And we'll go round and round with nothing settled.

 

[Covemastah]

So did whipping the out of blacks, limiting women’s rights, public executions, etc.

Sorry time moves forward and it’s not only straight white men that get to enjoy living here.

We live in a heterosexual world, we don't need to change our laws or way of life for the few ,, you already got gay marriage and non of your other rights are infringed ,, God made man , God made woman , this has been the belief since the beginning of time, the only way to heaven is through the belief of Jesus Christ ,

 

[Integrity]

I'm not jumping through hoops for you. You're supportive of gay rights so nothing I say will register with you because I'm not. And we'll go round and round with nothing settled.

IMO you don’t follow a flow of a discussion very well and you seem to twist things a bit.

No disrespect intended, just my opinion based upon my experience and observation.

All good.

Time saved is time not wasted.

Peace

 

[El Correcto]

We live in a heterosexual world, we don't need to change our laws or way of life for the few ,, you already got gay marriage and non of your other rights are infringed ,, God made man , God made woman , this has been the belief since the beginning of time, the only way to heaven is through the belief of Jesus Christ ,

You would be the type standing out infront of an elementary school screaming at black children they live in a white man’s world.

 

[vantexan]

IMO you don’t follow a flow of a discussion very well and you seem to twist things a bit.

No disrespect intended, just my opinion based upon my experience and observation.

All good.

Time saved is time not wasted.

Peace

And you think you know better than Christ's chosen Apostles and it's your right to not follow their writings if you disagree. Did I twist anything there?

He made it very clear that he thinks I'm a hypocrite for condemning gay sexuality while condoning heterosexual imagery like Disney movies that influences kids. I pointed out that movies like Snow White aren't comparable to drag queen shows put on for children and I pointed out that I absolutely would condemn any adult themed heterosexual shows put on for children. Now did I twist things? He's the one who called me a hypocrite after I asked how were gays pushing back. Did I twist that? Your reaction was to take his point of view as reasonable and say I can't follow a discussion and I twist things. Did I twist that? It's been well documented on this forum that you avoid as much as possible giving direct answers while you cast shade on those things you disagree with. No doubt you won't give direct answers here and you'll claim I'm wrong. More power to you. Others can judge for themselves. If you want to discount others' sincerely held beliefs as just traditions of men that's your prerogative. But expect some of us to disagree.

 

[vantexan]

You would be the type standing out infront of an elementary school screaming at black children they live in a white man’s world.

You would be the type to characterize your behavior as a legitimate minority. It's just behavior.

 

[Covemastah]

You would be the type standing out infront of an elementary school screaming at black children they live in a white man’s world.

Yup ,, turn it into race ,, that's what you liberal far left nuts are best at ,, while your at, blame Trump

 

[El Correcto]

You would be the type to characterize your behavior as a legitimate minority. It's just behavior.

For many years Christians viewed Jews the same way, to some pretty horrific outcomes.

 

[El Correcto]

Yup ,, turn it into race ,, that's what you liberal far left nuts are best at ,, while your at, blame Trump

I’m just stating facts, you have a hateful world view towards homosexuals.

 

[El Correcto]

I appreciate the back and forth but I don’t see any meaningful outcome coming out of this, your excuses will remain endless just like your ignorance.

 

[Covemastah]

I don't hate homosexuals, I know quite a few and have a cousin who is !!
What I hate are library books in school that show two men enjoying each other's Johnson to influence the young , if the book was a man / woman they'd call it porn , not education , also think the public school system is broken and trying to indoctrinate our young !

 

[Covemastah]

Never should of taken God out of the schools , was the beginning of the decay of American values and society!!

 

[El Correcto]

I don't hate homosexuals, I know quite a few and have a cousin who is !!
What I hate are library books in school that show two men enjoying each other's Johnson to influence the young , if the book was a man / woman they'd call it porn , not education , also think the public school system is broken and trying to indoctrinate our young !

The public school system certainly is trying to indoctrinate people. That’s what it is meant to do, just like every system human beings are under the influence of.

When I was in high school I read the fountain head by Ayn Rand. Ayn Rand is a kinky lady with a rape fetish, it comes out in her works. Howard Roark raped Dominique Francon. I don’t see right wingers trying to take Ayn Rand out of the schools.

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The typical book given to high schoolers is anthem though, maybe my school just messed up allowing fountain head to be in there.

 

[vantexan]

For many years Christians viewed Jews the same way, to some pretty horrific outcomes.

When have Christians ever viewed the Jews as not a legitimate minority? When have Christians ever said being Jewish is just a behavior?