I know. That part basically states if either side thinks there is an alleged problem, then they can quickly arbitrate wether it was legal or not.
What I am asking is if anyone can answer what it means if the company does not abide by the procedures prescribed for the settlement of disputes?
Liam was saying the company violated the grievance procedure. Is that it?
I read the arbitration posted by local 804 news, thanks by the way, and on page 12 he says
The language of the Agreement authorizes the
Union to engage in a job action only if the Company fails to abide by
“the procedure for the settlement of disputes and differences,”.
He also says that in the Melville case the company followed the procedures, thats why I am asking.
liam said more than what was caught on video. He read from the contract and mentioned non working 72's being wrong, the company not following the grievance procedure, violating article 7, no proven or admitted dishonesty,the driver being fired with stuff the company lied about. What if Liam is right?
What you guys who weren't there don't realize is that we all thought Liam was right, wether the contract says so or not. We are all tired on the non working 72's and the trumped up dishonesty. What we want to know is why isn't Liam around now? We are hearing he has been banned, he is on vacation, he was suspended, etc.We all feel better when he is here. He fights the company. Sometimes I think he fights too much, but he is a fighter. We all just want straight answers and want a meeting. How can UPS ban our B.A?
I was told that Ron Carey had several illegal strikes in the 80's and the guys think he was a hero and he wasn't banned from buildings then.
You were told were told some things and question what you read, I will give my opinion on that.
I was told that the one on wearing the pins was about the American Flag. What started happening some members were wearing all different pins and UPS then said NO pins. The issue then became the USA Flag pin.
In Melville remember what it said that Sylvester said the labor manager said no one would be walked off. One more phone call might have stopped the whole thing. And the arbitrator said Orringer's actions were irresponsible.
From the video Liam received a call (he said Sylvester) telling the members to go back to work he (Sylvester) was handling it with some labor guy. Liam didn't tell the members to go back to work! Then Reynolds came to Maspeth to also tell them to go back to work.
Liam has a personal agenda with UPS they fired him and an arbitrator upheld the discharge.
So that being said, it can't be a good feeling being fired having no job when you have a family to care for. So then knowing what happened in Melville, why as a leader would you do what he did and not send 250 members back to work when Sylvester said he was talking with UPS?
When Carey had all these work stoppages don't think people didn't get fired, half of them are probably cops, fireman and sanitation men. Carey had a work stoppage in Maspeth for driver supervisors working and I am told they all got 3 days not fired because the Union had it all on video.
The job market and labor climat was a whole lot different than 2014.
And if you slowly read our by laws and think about what it means, they are supposed to take a lot of things into consideration.
Everyone is tired of being treated like a piece of dirt' answering redicolus questions and no matter what you do it is never enough! I am not afraid to fight but I personally would not put 250 members jobs on the line after Melville and your boss tellin you to send the members back to work,how about you?
