bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
I'll find out more when I go back on Monday....
No one is saying "those 250 jobs are the price of doing union activist work". At least no one other than you! Any price to be paid must be paid by those who violated the contract language...UPS! So, while some may choose to misquote and make ridiculous comments in support of UPS, there are others who are wearing the big boy pants. Nothing short of a total victory is acceptable here. That's what those 250 drivers deserve and I'm sure that's Tim's goal. The crying and whining isn't going to get that done. As determined as you are to criticize and point fingers at everyone EXCEPT UPS, it's probably just as well that you simply stay out of the way and let the big kids handle this one.So you are saying those 250 jobs are the price of doing union activist work? I bet those guys wish they knew what your plan of action was before! You would have been standing out there bye yourself!!
Last I heard they are still working...This thread, like many others has derailed into an IBT vs. TDU slugfest. Personally, I don't give two *^#}'s who's fault it is or how it could have been avoided. Can we get back to the drivers and union brothers who have their jobs on the line?
Are these drivers still working? Have there been any substantive changes in their situation?
No one is saying "those 250 jobs are the price of doing union activist work". At least no one other than you! Any price to be paid must be paid by those who violated the contract language...UPS! So, while some may choose to misquote and make ridiculous comments in support of UPS, there are others who are wearing the big boy pants. Nothing short of a total victory is acceptable here. That's what those 250 drivers deserve and I'm sure that's Tim's goal. The crying and whining isn't going to get that done. As determined as you are to criticize and point fingers at everyone EXCEPT UPS, it's probably just as well that you simply stay out of the way and let the big kids handle this one.
what time did he steal? And who did you steal it from?It's amazing you walk for a man stealing time but will tell a member to resign? Why is this member so special? This fight could have been done in every building in our local!! Pls man! Ups is no saint here! But they didn't fire 250 on there own! That magazine you sent out states maspeth is getting paid? Doesn't seem like grievance procedure is broken with Liam smiling for the camera.
This is no time to be dividing us we should stand with the drivers and we should stand with the e-board.I hope all you brave men hold the board accountable for what they have done to your careers here!
This is no time to be dividing us we should stand with the drivers and we should stand with the e-board.
How many drivers have been fired and walked out of the building?Dividing us?! Stand with the Eboard? And what exactly are they doing to fix this situation?
The company isn't even seating down with them. Intact is so bad for those members that they can't even talk about the issue with anyone or else they get walk-off for good! Can anyone imagine working under those conditions?
What is Sylvester has to say about that?! He will ask you to sign a petition like that is going to fix it!
RESIGN!
How many drivers have been fired and walked out of the building?
Then they must be doing something for the drivers.
Did you ever find anything positive that tdu ever said about the international or anything they have ever done 804brown????
At least you admit it. Do you also work at ups?Been a TDU member for years, and this might blow your mind about us TDU punks, but I agree with you 100% brother. If you're going to call out the bad, give credit for the good.
But that does not kean TDU is wrong...
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This is no time to be dividing us we should stand with the drivers and we should stand with the e-board.
This is no time to be dividing us we should stand with the drivers and we should stand with the e-board.
Exactly. We should stand by the drivers and the E-board of 804 until there is an outcome.We can all agree that everyone wants the drivers cleared. It's the E-board that's is in a pickle and there is no use in trying to predict the outcome.
Exactly. We should stand by the drivers and the E-board of 804 until there is an outcome.
Just because the E-board is TDU doesn't mean they messed up. This could come out good for 804. We just don't know yet.
The drivers and members of local 804 will make their own call on who runs their local. Not you.The 250 drivers get all of our backing without a doubt. The point is the local should make sure the members are never put in a position to lose their job. They are not chips to gamble with and there are other ways to win for the one driver that was wrongfully terminated. If the B.A. made a big mistake even the local can't protect him.
Because you would have been posting about it non-stop if 1 driver had been walked out of the building.What do you know, you aren't a local804 member!