Maybe now is the right time to organize

[floridays]

Unless somewhere down the line FedEx is named as co-employer.

Once again I like the way you think, you look past what is.

A plaintiff is needed, the plaintiff needs deep pockets, I don't foresee any contractors under the current formula of ownership filing suit.

I think that horse left the barn when individual route contractors were forced out or to multiples and incorporation.
I may have a misunderstanding, not likely however.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Fedex drivers are employees of the independent contractos. you cant organize them

They can be organized. Just not against FedEx.

 

[floridays]

They can be organized. Just not against FedEx.

You enjoy beating your meat.
Exactly what does that accomplish?
You feel better for a short time.
No change with Fedex ground.
@bbsam what is your action should your employees choose to organize?

 

[MAKAVELI]

You enjoy beating your meat.
Exactly what does that accomplish?
You feel better for a short time.
No change with Fedex ground.
@bbsam what is your action should your employees choose to organize?

The same thing if Express decided to fire me for organizing. There are these things called labor laws that protect one's right to organize a union.....

 

[bbsam]

You enjoy beating your meat.
Exactly what does that accomplish?
You feel better for a short time.
No change with Fedex ground.
@bbsam what is your action should your employees choose to organize?

I head for the unemployment line or try to get on with another contractor because my contract will be gone within 30 days. Chances are that I’ll find employment within the company, my drivers...probably not.

 

[bbsam]

The same thing if Express decided to fire me for organizing. There are these things called labor laws that protect one's right to organize a union.....

As soon as the first organized group was shown the door, how many more will line up to do the same.

 

[Fred's Myth]

The stark reality of the world outside of California might be dawning on @MAKAVELI finally.

 

[floridays]

The same thing if Express decided to fire me for organizing. There are these things called labor laws that protect one's right to organize a union.....

Great. How does organizing against bbasm delivery affect Fedex ground.
Who will represent you?
Are your pockets deep?
By definition no, you work for bbsam delivery.
Do you get the picture?
I'll bet bbsam can fire any of his employees today, it's their duty to persuade a judge the firing was the result of organizing.
you're new to this game.
TTKU.

 

[MAKAVELI]

As soon as the first organized group was shown the door, how many more will line up to do the same.

That depends on how bad the first group wants it. If one gets fired for organizing they can take it to the labor board and file unfair labor practices against the employer. Most people just don't know their rights.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Great. How does organizing against bbasm delivery affect Fedex ground.
Who will represent you?
Are your pockets deep?
By definition no, you work for bbsam delivery.
Do you get the picture?
I'll bet bbsam can fire any of his employees today, it's their duty to persuade a judge the firing was the result of organizing.
you're new to this game.
TTKU.

That's where the union comes into play. If the Union's goal is to organize drivers of contractors eventually most of FedEx ground they'll take on that fight for the employee.

 

[bbsam]

That depends on how bad the first group wants it. If one gets fired for organizing they can take it to the labor board and file unfair labor practices against the employer. Most people just don't know their rights.

No. You don’t get it. They don’t get fired for organizing. The company they work for ceases to exist. It’s not unfair labor practices for a defunct company not to have employees. And you can’t force other contractors to hire those drivers.

 

[floridays]

That's where the union comes into play. If the Union's goal is to organize drivers of contractors eventually most of FedEx ground they'll take on that fight for the employee.

I see, you can read the seams on a fastball.
Which union will expend any time better yet money to organize bbsam Delivery Corp. drivers.
None is the answer.

 

[floridays]

No. You don’t get it. They don’t get fired for organizing. The company they work for ceases to exist. It’s not unfair labor practices for a defunct company not to have employees. And you can’t force other contractors to hire those drivers.

Beyond that, you can fire them for bad hygiene or whatever you conjure up.

 

[MAKAVELI]

No. You don’t get it. They don’t get fired for organizing. The company they work for ceases to exist. It’s not unfair labor practices for a defunct company not to have employees. And you can’t force other contractors to hire those drivers.

Be hard to terminate every contract in a terminal all at once if they were all organized at once.

 

[floridays]

Be hard to terminate every contract in a terminal all at once if they were all organized at once.

Like you guys did?
Take care of your own house first.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Like you guys did?
Take care of your own house first.

I'm just saying it's possible just like it's possible at Express even under the RLA.

 

[floridays]

I'm just saying it's possible just like it's possible at Express even under the RLA.

Entirely possible under the RLA, not sure why that designation scares you guys.

 

[bbsam]

Be hard to terminate every contract in a terminal all at once if they were all organized at once.

Good luck with that. There’s actually a lot of Ground drivers who are absolute Trump supporters and will vote against their own best interests every single time.

 

[bbsam]

If they couldn’t organize Freight...

 

[MAKAVELI]

If they couldn’t organize Freight...

Freaight actually makes a decent wage and they top out in 3 years.