Negotiations

[Thebrownblob]

I’m focused on them creating more inside jobs. I’m not here for the pay check as a part timer.

This is also my philosophy.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

SOB said they needed a deal by the 5th or it would not be ratified by the first. And he said we are not working past the first.

If we have a contract in hand that The IBT endorses, we will keep working through the voting process. It's pretty simple to understand.

 

[PT 4 Life]

A bump. That’s it. Lol

This was on Reddit but supposedly the bump was 17 dollars lol…

 

[Thebrownblob]

If we have a contract in hand that The IBT endorses, we will keep working through the voting process. It's pretty simple to understand.

The people who think we’re going to strike even if they offer us everything we want make no sense.

 

[HarryWarden]

The company is under no obligation to say anything about last best and final. SOB wanted them to. By not doing it the company can call him at any time before the 31st if he refuses to negotiate then it would be his fault because they left the door open by not giving a final offer. Which I believe is their strategy they’re going to give a final offer when they choose before the 31st that does not mean the IBT has to accept if it is substandard.

So he said that no handshake deals or extensions, if ups gives an offer that teamsters approves on the 31st, in your opinion should SON walk back on the no handshake or extensions, or should we strike while we vote?

Somewhere between 20 and 25 starting pay is what I’ve been saying all along.

I think $25 starting is fair with strong progressions or a top out after certain amount of years

 

[dogs.bite.me]

Somewhere between 20 and 25 starting pay is what I’ve been saying all along.

I think SOB would be fine with 20 start.
With all the social media posts UPS has done, that has to be the bottom.

I think the hang up is the catch up raises for long time part timers.
My suspicion is company agreed to 20 hour start, and they SOB said okay, and .75 for every year a pt has been here up to 5 years.
Company comes back and says we have no more to give...

Just my guess.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

The people who think we’re going to strike even if they offer us everything we want make no sense.

Or don't understand that ULPs and Good Faith bargaining laws apply both ways.

 

[PT 4 Life]

@UnionStrong you were hired off the street right? Never worked inside so it might be why you don’t get it

 

[Non liberal]

If we have a contract in hand that The IBT endorses, we will keep working through the voting process. It's pretty simple to understand.

So the same old bull as Hoffa. Let the company screw us around as long as they want to. I thought this guy was different, that he actually had some balls. Should have known better.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

So the same old bull as Hoffa. Let the company screw us around as long as they want to. I thought this guy was different, that he actually had some balls. Should have known better.

You understand that ULPs and Good faith bargaining laws apply both ways? Right?

 

[dogs.bite.me]

So the same old bull as Hoffa. Let the company screw us around as long as they want to. I thought this guy was different, that he actually had some balls. Should have known better.

i belive legally he cant call a strike if he endorses a deal... i could be wrong but i think that would constitute unfair labor practice....

 

[UnionStrong]

This was on Reddit but supposedly the bump was 17 dollars lol…

17 is ridiculous.

 

[Thebrownblob]

This was on Reddit but supposedly the bump was 17 dollars lol…

Ignore Reddit

 

[UnionStrong]

@UnionStrong you were hired off the street right? Never worked inside so it might be why you don’t get it

I had a preloader, I knew clerks and I worked in car wash at night for awhile. I saw a lot. Years ago part time was different, many wanted to drive, today many don’t want to work.

 

[PT 4 Life]

Ignore Reddit

Yeah it’s a ton of misinformation but if it was true no wonder union laughed in their faces. Wouldn’t shock me though since ups is a cheap ass company.

 

[Non liberal]

Or don't understand that ULPs and Good Faith bargaining laws apply both ways.

It’s what the man said, that’s why. Must I find the video? Im just saying then it was a stupid thing to say because we will not get what we want without striking now. They own his ass. Pretty simple.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

It’s what the man said, that’s why. Must I find the video? Im just saying then it was a stupid thing to say because we will not get what we want without striking now. They own his ass. Pretty simple.

Either you're a ing troll, or you're ignorant to the whole situation. If you understand how this works, it was always the plan to have a contract in-hand by July 31 at the latest, ratification aside. The company determines this, not anyone else, and they know it.

 

[PT 4 Life]

I had a preloader, I knew clerks and I worked in car wash at night for awhile. I saw a lot. Years ago part time was different, many wanted to drive, today many don’t want to work.

Not always the case. Lack of organization on the company part. they don’t do anything to try and push for new drivers. They’ll happily keep you as a loader if they could. We have year in employees who don’t even know how to sign up to be a driver.

 

[UnionStrong]

Either you're a ing troll, or you're ignorant to the whole situation. If you understand how this works, it was always the plan to have a contract in-hand by July 31 at the latest, ratification aside. The company determines this, not anyone else, and they know it.

 

[HarryWarden]

Either you're a ing troll, or you're ignorant to the whole situation. If you understand how this works, it was always the plan to have a contract in-hand by July 31 at the latest, ratification aside. The company determines this, not anyone else, and they know it.

I think his point is, then why say the opposite? If they both know they’re going to do handshake agreement, and SOB is saying no handshake agreement, then maybe the company will think he’s bluffing about other things as well, like striking, and they are pushing negotiations farther along than needed be?