Negotiations

[Non liberal]

How would you suggest he force them?

I thought he was forcing them. Idk, he’s the negotiator that’s why he didn’t start negotiating early like they always do. He said UPS knows exactly what we want, if we don’t get it, we’ll strike. His words.

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

How much a PT person at a grocery store makes?

Depends on where he works, duh

 

[anonymous23456]

I have a feeling grocery stores arent making billions of dollars in profit

Really? They never run out of customers! Tell me about them...I'm all ears.

 

[HarryWarden]

It does seem weird to me also, but these guys know way more about it than me.

I guess I don’t understand even the broad philosophy of it all. Why would the union ever make concessions at all? Right now Sean is basically saying “this is what we want, and if we don’t get it we’re striking”, so why doesn’t that happen every time? Is it just that eventually the public and maybe even the workers would grow tired of the strike talks and it loses its power?

Has these negotiations and tactics been different to the previous ones?

 

[HarryWarden]

Really? They never run out of customers! Tell me about them...I'm all ears.

“Conventional grocery stores have a profit margin of about 2.2%, making them one of the least profitable industries in the US”

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I thought he was forcing them. Idk, he’s the negotiator that’s why he didn’t start negotiating early like they always do. He said UPS knows exactly what we want, if we don’t get it, we’ll strike. His words.

I know, my point is that, until Aug 1, we are on UPS' time. They know that, they understand the rules. The later they go the more stress they put on the members, the .ore likely they are to accept something they don't want. It's all a game, my man, we're just the pieces.

 

[burrheadd]

If the Teamsters had fought for PT wages, there would be no PT MRA wages now.

You drunk or just trying to stir some up

 

[burrheadd]

Part timers are the majority of the labor and the company has been having record profits, seems like a good “investment” to me

Lol
Gtfoh

 

[Non liberal]

I know, my point is that, until Aug 1, we are on UPS' time. They know that, they understand the rules. The later they go the more stress they put on the members, the .ore likely they are to accept something they don't want. It's all a game, my man, we're just the pieces.

That’s what I was saying to someone else. That’s why I thought he was going to get tough with them. Guess he could yet, just not looking likely.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

That’s what I was saying to someone else. That’s why I thought he was going to get tough with them. Guess he could yet, just not looking likely.

There's literally nothing he can do, at this point.

 

[anonymous23456]

Please, UPS...give PT people 18% raise and a turkey to all teamsters!

 

[Non liberal]

There's literally nothing he can do, at this point.

I’m talking about when it gets down to the wire. Not giving in. Wanting the same thing 3 weeks from now that he wants now. No concessions, like he said.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I’m talking about when it gets down to the wire. Not giving in. Wanting the same thing 3 weeks from now that he wants now. No concessions, like he said.

I believe that will be his stance, he's put too many shops on the street for me to believe otherwise.

 

[dogs.bite.me]

It does seem weird to me also, but these guys know way more about it than me.

I guess I don’t understand even the broad philosophy of it all. Why would the union ever make concessions at all? Right now Sean is basically saying “this is what we want, and if we don’t get it we’re striking”, so why doesn’t that happen every time? Is it just that eventually the public and maybe even the workers would grow tired of the strike talks and it loses its power?

Has these negotiations and tactics been different to the previous ones?

You say you’ve been here 10 years. That means 2 previous contracts.

You didn’t get involved before to know how the process works?

But to answer your question, this is the most militant I’ve seen the union as well as the company in my 18 years here.

 

[HarryWarden]

You say you’ve been here 10 years. That means 2 previous contracts.

You didn’t get involved before to know how the process works?

But to answer your question, this is the most militant I’ve seen the union as well as the company in my 18 years here.

nope, I’ve been far too ignorant in the past and was just thinking short term. Working multiple jobs throughout the day and just paying my bills and trying to have a life outside of that. Foolish of me, but I’m trying to do better, and learn.

To be fair though, it wasn’t even necesarily that I ignored it or didn’t care, I really didn’t hear much about anything at all. I went in and did my job and left, like my other jobs, I never really heard much about anything from
Anyone . I never had any union reps talk to me or my pd or anything.

 

[Re-Raise]

I believe that will be his stance, he's put too many shops on the street for me to believe otherwise.

He’s probably looking big picture as well.

I’m sure SOB and the rest of the Teamster negotiators know that the national media attention during these negotiations might go a long way toward organizing employees at other companies like Fed Ex and especially Amazon.

A big contract win would be great for the future of the union

 

[burrheadd]

If the company refuses to give a LBFO, what can he do? What's the option?

Take it or leave it

 

[burrheadd]

If we have a contract in hand that The IBT endorses, we will keep working through the voting process. It's pretty simple to understand.

Not for some of these knuckleheads probably the same crew that signs for adult signature required
Then Can’t figure out why they are sitting out

 

[Karma...]

once this contract is settled ups stock will finally start to appreciate to the tune where I will appreciate it...

 

[Karma...]

No national contract back then it wasn't nationwide

I may be incorrect but I think it was close.........I do remember when locals in nye were always on strike or doing wildcat strikes and we had to stack their packages off to the side......those were the days when unions were around 38 percent of the work total