Trucker Clock
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I can respect that. You’re voting no for a reason other than “to teach the Company a lesson.”
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I can respect that. You’re voting no for a reason other than “to teach the Company a lesson.”
Non liberal
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Oh yeah, covid, record profits, inflation= best opportunity for a historic contract in our career probably.
anonymous23456
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SOB should stop wasting time threatening UPS. He is better off going after Amazon and FedEx. UPS is already Unionized.
HarryWarden
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Do you also tell a fit person to stop exercising because they’re already in shape?
Mplayers2006
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Yes. There is a point where it becomes diminishing returns.
Emergency Conditions
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He'll have a lot more leverage dealing with them if he can win us a great contract first. If he can't do right by the largest workforce he represents then Amazon and FedEx workers won't be interested in what he has to offer.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
You're right, he said it once. He definitely got out over his skis with that.
govols019
You smell that?
That's disconcerting
Non liberal
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No that’s good, I hope they don’t meet until the last minute or after the first for that matter.
Non liberal
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? That’s an odd statement. People who are in shape never stop exercising. You may just be maintaining, but you’re always exercising. Just my 2cents worth.
HarryWarden
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I just don’t understand the UPS game plan here. They have to see that teamsters aren’t planning on budging at all. Do they think enough people will scab? That the public will lose sympathy for workers when they see the offered contract?
I just don’t see what they benefit by waiting for what seems to be the inevitable when the delay and uncertainty is causing so much concern in the media and with customers
Non liberal
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Yeah I don’t understand either, either the unions demands are that unreasonable, or they think the Biden administration will step in and not let us strike. But it’s even getting too late for that to happen. They would be foolish to think enough people would scab to be able to sustain the operation for any length of time. Maybe they will try and show the public the offers that were made and try to get the public sympathy on their side. I had a retiree tell me the other day that is one thing they had on their side in 97 that they didn’t think we would have now, IDK. As far as uncertainty, they love causing uncertainty with their employees, that is one thing I’ve learned from being here so far. Like someone else on here said, the more anxiety they can cause you, the better the chance you will accept an offer you normally wouldn’t.
Its_a_me
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The Teamsters are a local and state level political power that drives turnout at the polls. They have large PACs that give to both Republican and Democrat candidates. They also give to individual candidates. They have lobbyists that help shape laws.
I don't think any branch of our government wants to be near a decision that goes against them for fear of political reprisals.
As far as public sympathy: why do you think O'Brien is leaning so hard into the pandemic hero imagery and talking about the guys behind the scenes that loaded the trucks? And the words poverty wages come out so much. You can't get sympathy for driver wages from the public--but part timers making less than $20 an hour some after having been with the company for 1 decade. Yeah, they can sell that. And the best part: it plays into the union's playbook of being able to organize Amazon by showing their part-timers what can be gained by unionizing.
Trucker Clock
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Interesting read.
www.wdrb.com
$25 per hour? Teamsters look to end 'part-time poverty' at UPS
The strong job market has forced UPS to pay entry-level workers much more than the Teamsters negotiated five years ago. Now the union is out for more. How much can
HarryWarden
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“O’Brien hasn’t publicly set a dollar-per-hour target, and his office declined to specify. But he told industry publication Supply Chain Dive on July 6 that the union and the company are “probably $6 to $7 per hour apart” on part-time wages. “Interesting read.
$25 per hour? Teamsters look to end 'part-time poverty' at UPS
The strong job market has forced UPS to pay entry-level workers much more than the Teamsters negotiated five years ago. Now the union is out for more. How much can
That’s the first I’ve heard of this. Wow, that’s quite the difference this late into negotiations. I wonder what the numbers are.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Couldn't even guess, but that has "STRIKE" written all over it.
DriveInDriveOut
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18-25
Take 20
Trucker Clock
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HarryWarden
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Maybe im wrong, and I am certainly biased, but I don’t think we should settle. This may be our strongest point to negotiate in a long time. We’re playing catch up, we have record profits by a huge margin, the public and so far the media seems to be on our side, strike while the iron is hot
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
The Company could just simply raise it to 25 bucks an hour..then start chasing these kids off the clock at 3.5 like they did in the 80’s.
But, that would mean creating more full time jobs and adding additional costs in pension and health and welfare contributions.
