UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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If you were bonus that route would not have existed.
Non-bonus center ops changed?
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If you were bonus that route would not have existed.
box_beeyotch
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The only reason to look at the numbers is to make sure you were paid the proper amount of hours for the day.
imwell
I'm as productive as the methods allow.
Exactly. I am in a bonus center. Any route we have ever had that consistently achieved high, daily bonus (lets say 2+hours a day), have had the planned day numbers "re-cooked" so the exact same route/driver now have a tough time just making scratch, let alone attaining any meaningful bonus.
Mr.Golden
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So you're saying if I did 9-5 well correction 9-6 and take my break 4 pm. or 5 is why the rt get cut?? That can't be true cause I would still finish at 6 no matter WHEN I take my break
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Mr.Golden
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I've been with UPS for 10 yrs now no accident no injuries. I don't know about driver follow ups. I usually keep plugs out of sight and weather. Also make sure ppl home electronic stuff
Mr.Golden
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
Occasionally a blind pig can find an acorn.
I was a bonus coordinator and involved in Bonus administration and auditing.
Since I am retired, I think I can safely relay why UPS was so big on Bonus back 30 -50 years ago.
Simply, it was to get pickup volume back into the twilight sorts and center reloads so the volume could be processed by the scheduled pull times. This was when P/T made as much as friend/T drivers so the financials were positive for Bonus.
Now it is more cost-effective to hire more P/T at 1/3 the friend/T rate and run a more time-compressed sort.
That along with the fact that centers are measured as cost centers than production centers takes a lot of the lipstick of the bonus pig.
I doubt if UPS is trying to get Bonus voted in anymore and once it is voted out, it will be gone for good.
I think this is reflected from the posts
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Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Mr.Golden
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Thanks for elaborating![emoji106]
Brown287
Im not the Mail Man!
Recently one of our Orion cordinaters we had also once had a position in the the "bonus investigation team". She said and I quote, "UPS does not like the bonus". The best I got was that as far as they are concerned is that for every 5 bonus drivers, 3 are doing it illegally. They believe it costs more than it saves. So for all you who think it's some conspiracy by UPS to eliminate Union jobs, think again.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
even without bonus it doesn't exist.
Mr.Golden
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I know that's why the convo became distorted when u pointed the other direction.
It reminds me of Star Wars.....
Ups wouldn't allow it. If it was no benefit to them. Just like 9.5. Grievances. They don't want to pay them. But its still way cheaper than having another employee on the payroll.
Jmho
Or how few drivers they actually need.
I'll have to say you'd think they would jack the numbers but this is just not the case in our center atleast. We've been a bonus center forever and in our recent virtual time study (2 years ago) everybody gained something, some guys an hour. If you work steady and follow the methods, you can come in an hour under, which is making up the lunch you skipped if you decided to do so. Out of 40 or so rtes I'd say maybe 5 guys show up on the operation report as over allowed on an average day.
northern va ft driver
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As I sit here reading all the responses to this post. I seem to believe that bonus is good for a center. The ones that seem to like bonus seem to have to defend themselves way to much. Why is it the ones who don't seem to think it's okay to be average or even worse below average. You need the bonus drivers so u can get your 8 hr request or because you fell behind and won't make 9.5. How is it ever okay to not work to the best of your ability. Would you tell your kids that the D on their report card is okay because numbers don't matter? So I ask those drivers is that honest or is it stealing? I am in no way saying running is what you should be doing but maybe you guys spend more time running your mouths than running your truck. I love my job. I love company. I love what the union is supposed to stand for! Protecting hard workers. Not to protect you from working hard.
OPTION3
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If your kid is getting a D on their report card...and they are trying their hardest would you punish them over and over? Would you add more homework even if they weren't getting it? So I ask you if I'm trying my hardest and still run 1hour of over allowed or greater is the company being unfair? Running your mouth? Sounds like a perfect example of an on road to me JMHO
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