Both rifles are empty and pointed downrange, I had stuck a 40-round P-Mag in the AR to see if it would fit in the case. It's too long of course. Somebody gave me that rifle, I suspect its a California model since it came with a heavy-duty bull barrel, a ten-round magazine, and standard AR furniture. You can't have those evil flash suppressors and collapsible stocks on them. I thought about threading the barrel and putting a suppressor on it, but that big flash ball that comes out does look cool. ARs have little recoil so this one fires the same as other ARs. I added the quad rail and Magpul accessories to it.