Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[wilberforce15]

IPhones were only for the rich. Smart phones were out of reach. Now tribesmen in the third world have them.

 

[newfie]

Here in the Northeast the bulk of our electricity comes from hydropower.

Long considered a “clean” energy source, hydropower can actually be bad for climate

A new EDF study published this week in Environmental Science and Technology shows that hydropower — the leading renewable energy technology projected to grow rapidly — is not always as good for the climate as broadly assumed. Moreover, continuing to assume that it is could mean that projects meant t

blogs.edf.org

 

[UnionStrong]

Here in the Northeast the bulk of our electricity comes from hydropower.

Wrong, natural gas

 

[newfie]

The average low income family is not their demographic.

meaning?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Rich people get the good stuff before poor people.

Rich fund the development and mass production when they buy expensive and smaller batch.

This is the way every tech develops.

My first VCR, which I bought while on active duty at the Base Exchange, cost $600.

 

[newfie]

You won't need a new battery.

why?

 

[UnionStrong]

Long considered a “clean” energy source, hydropower can actually be bad for climate

A new EDF study published this week in Environmental Science and Technology shows that hydropower — the leading renewable energy technology projected to grow rapidly — is not always as good for the climate as broadly assumed. Moreover, continuing to assume that it is could mean that projects meant t

blogs.edf.org

We use more natural gas than hydro power in the northeast, way more.

 

[wilberforce15]

why?

Because multi million mile batteries are already available, and others will eventually get them. Your battery will outlast your car.

And a 2014 EV from Ford is the subject of the article. Ford still can't match the specs of the original Tesla a decade ago.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Wrong, natural gas

Lower-Emitting Resources Supply Most of the Region's Electricity. In 2021, natural-gas-fired generation, nuclear, other low- or no-emission sources, and imported electricity (mostly hydropower from Eastern Canada) provided of the region's electricity.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

meaning?

They won't be buying EVs, let alone worrying about replacing the batteries.

 

[UnionStrong]

Lower-Emitting Resources Supply Most of the Region's Electricity. In 2021, natural-gas-fired generation, nuclear, other low- or no-emission sources, and imported electricity (mostly hydropower from Eastern Canada) provided of the region's electricity.

Wrong

 

[newfie]

Keystone XL wasn't going to be done until 2024 at very earliest. The pipeline was 8 or 9% done when Biden shut it down. Keystone XL was also being built to haul the worst of the Canadian oils that was going to be shipped overseas because it's too expensive to refine in to gasoline.

you're trying to argue about dates? How about arguing about simple simon your president not doing anything?

why didnt he meet with the oil executives to fix the regulatory issues? why did he instead meet with the Saudi's to get them to pump more?

why is it his administration blames russia for oil price increases and does a victory dance when it drops from 5 to 4.5 a gallon?
does he know his people cant afford 4.5 either? Does he know sending our strategic oil reserves to other countries does nothing for us?

one thing about Trump you knew damn well everything we had would be used for us first. Bidens more worried about helping other countries than us.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

IPhones were only for the rich. Smart phones were out of reach. Now tribesmen in the third world have them.

I volunteer for the VA twice a week dong patient transport----we use Obama style flip phones.

 

[newfie]

They won't be buying EVs, let alone worrying about replacing the batteries.

if thats their belief than they're even bigger A holes than i thought. drive electric has become their "let them eat cake" moment.

 

[wilberforce15]

I volunteer for the VA twice a week dong patient transport----we use Obama style flip phones.

The VA is regularly behind tribesmen in the third world in tech adoption.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The VA is regularly behind tribesmen in the third world in tech adoption.

Sadly you are correct---it is a very depressing place.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

if thats their belief than they're even bigger A holes than i thought. drive electric has become their "let them eat cake" moment.

The buses (public and prison) that they will be riding will be electric.

 

[Babagounj]

I'm talking about the supposed impending extinction of all ICE vehicles in America.

That will never happen.
There are some heavy duty vehicles that will never be EV.
Mostly construction & mining equipment along with associated vehicles that are needed.
And don't forget tow trucks will still be around to tow the EV when it runs out of juice.

 

[wilberforce15]

That will never happen.
There are some heavy duty vehicles that will never be EV.
Mostly construction & mining equipment along with associated vehicles that are needed.
And don't forget tow trucks will still be around to tow the EV when it runs out of juice.

And everyone even misunderstand the goals.

Even if you have all new consumer sales being EV by 2030 or 2035, you still have 3/4 of the he cars on the road being gas.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That will never happen.
There are some heavy duty vehicles that will never be EV.
Mostly construction & mining equipment along with associated vehicles that are needed.
And don't forget tow trucks will still be around to tow the EV when it runs out of juice.

Actually, when an EV runs out of juice, it cannot be towed-----it has to be flatbedded (sp?).

My son and his family recently went on a trip to Florida and left their car in long term parking. I surprised them by meeting them at the airport in Albany when they came back home. He had inadvertently left his lights on and the battery had died. I offered to jump it but my DIL had already called to have airport maintenance do it. I am glad that they did as it could have damaged my EV.