Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[wilberforce15]

You been binge watching the Jetsons again?

Some current batteries being sold are already that good.

 

[trickpony1]

Don't care.

But disposal also isn't going to happen much. Because retired car batteries that have outlasted their car bodies will be used for grid storage. You and your kid will use the car. The grandkids will use the car battery as their house backup power.

Keep drinking the koolaid.

"fantasyland not helping" helping.

 

[newfie]

Don't care.

But disposal also isn't going to happen much. Because retired car batteries that have outlasted their car bodies will be used for grid storage. You and your kid will use the car. The grandkids will use the car battery as their house backup power.

thats fine. I'm just saying the EV is a long way from the environmental savior claimed.

 

[wilberforce15]

Keep drinking the koolaid.

"fantasyland not helping" helping.

If koolaid means data, then yes.

 

[newolddude]

thats fine. I'm just saying the EV is a long way from the environmental savior claimed.

You know what is an environmental savior? Public transportation.

 

[newfie]

You know what is an environmental savior? Public transportation.

I think at some point when everyone is able to power off the sun and the cost and waste issues are resolved its a good thing.
but we're a long way from a completely clean ev option.

 

[newolddude]

I think at some point when everyone is able to power off the sun and the cost and waste issues are resolved its a good thing.
but we're a long way from a completely clean ev option.

One of my friends had parents who left him a lot of money. One of the thing he did was put a massive solar rig on his rooftop of his big house. And of course he drives a Tesla. Claims he's close to energy independent at home and for driving.

My guess is that less than 1% of Americans could exist that way.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You know what is an environmental savior? Public transportation.

What about alternative fuel public transportation?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I think at some point when everyone is able to power off the sun and the cost and waste issues are resolved its a good thing.
but we're a long way from a completely clean ev option.

...yes but we are much further along than we were 10-20 years ago...

 

[BrownFlush]

One of my friends had parents who left him a lot of money. One of the thing he did was put a massive solar rig on his rooftop of his big house. And of course he drives a Tesla. Claims he's close to energy independent at home and for driving.

My guess is that less than 1% of Americans could exist that way.

Only registered democrats could survive such horror.

 

[BrownFlush]

The future belongs to....​

UPS MULTIFUEL STRATIFIED CHARGE ENGINE​

​

 

[burrheadd]

Stuff like that happens. I bought a used Ford Explorer as a winter driver/camping/going to bad neighborhoods vehicle for $7500. Had it checked by a trusted mechanic.

Within the first 6 months the transmission crapped out $3300
Timing chain went. $1300
Cat converter thief hit $1300

Water pumps next and it’s not a normal bolt on the front of the motor it’s internal $3500 to repalce

 

[burrheadd]

all that sounds wonderful but spending 15 k for new batteries is insane. the average low income family would have to let it sit where it dies at that price.

You ever drive thru the ghetto ? They do that now

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You ever drive thru the ghetto ? They do that now

The more affluent use real cinder blocks.

 

[newolddude]

Only registered democrats could survive such horror.

He's actually pretty conservative socially and politically.

 

[newfie]

...yes but we are much further along than we were 10-20 years ago...

I guess but if you're destroying the environment to manufacture something , destroying the environment to dispose of it and getting little to no fossil fuel savings inbetween then "much further along" is your only victory.

 

[newfie]

Only registered democrats could survive such horror.

elitism at its best.

 

[newfie]

Stuff like that happens. I bought a used Ford Explorer as a winter driver/camping/going to bad neighborhoods vehicle for $7500. Had it checked by a trusted mechanic.

Within the first 6 months the transmission crapped out $3300
Timing chain went. $1300
Cat converter thief hit $1300

Thats an extreme example with a gas engine and no where close to crapping out 15 k for batteries.

Unless they come up with cheaper options people will send those cars to the junk yard once the batteries need replacing.
If I'm going to spend 15 K on a car I might as well use it as a downpayment on a new car.
If I someday buy electric I will trade it in every 4 years so i dont have to take that hit.

 

[newfie]

You ever drive thru the ghetto ? They do that now

I thought those were yard decorations ?

 

[wilberforce15]

Water pumps next and it’s not a normal bolt on the front of the motor it’s internal $3500 to repalce

Thats an extreme example with a gas engine and no where close to crapping out 15 k for batteries.

Unless they come up with cheaper options people will send those cars to the junk yard once the batteries need replacing.
If I'm going to spend 15 K on a car I might as well use it as a downpayment on a new car.
If I someday buy electric I will trade it in every 4 years so i dont have to take that hit.

Batteries don't crap out much, unless you were a m*r*n and bought a 2014 Ford EV as in the example.
You can buy an EV right now you can leave in your will.