Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

vantexan

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Tesla has functionally existed in the public mind for about 12 years, and it's hilarious to see so many people question "Why aren't they doing X yet? Why haven't they solved this other problem over here?" And on and on.

In 12 years, they've gone from unknown to selling 2 million cars.

No, they haven't made an econobox for the masses yet. lol. They've just made piles of money and changed design forever.

Ultimately, the globalist solution for poor people is autonomous electric vehicles. They have a lower cost of operation than a poor person owning a beater car. It will be cheaper, on a per mile basis, to order a robotaxi through your neural link device than it will be to own junkyard '90s Japanese crap box.
That could be 10 years or 20 years away. But it doesn't really matter, it's the truth and it's guaranteed.
That's a nerd fantasy. You aren't going to take away people's independence no matter how cheap it is to just call for an Uber.
 

Thebrownblob

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That's a nerd fantasy. You aren't going to take away people's independence no matter how cheap it is to just call for an Uber.
Sure they can. They will just make it prohibitively expensive and say they’re saving the Earth. Remember, Rush Limbaugh used to say oil is economic engine that drives the country and gives us freedom. That is what they hate the most. Their plan and their desire is to limit and control your freedoms as much as possible.
 

wilberforce15

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That's a nerd fantasy. You aren't going to take away people's independence no matter how cheap it is to just call for an Uber.
There's like 5% of the population, at most, who would object. And most of them are old and don't matter.
In 10-20 years, millennials will be in their 50s. Who is going to fight it? Great-grandpa? lol.

You won't have to take their independence and offer cheap stuff. If you offer cheap pleasure and ease, people will throw their freedom at you for nothing. They don't want it.

America is dead.
 

wilberforce15

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It is 100% certain that the technology will exist for autonomous robotaxis to charge 10 cents a mile or less and make a profit in most places in the country.

And you think principles of Truth, Justice, and The American Way will stop it? lol.

You think you can offer the average man a 2 dollar ride for 20 miles, with realistic surround-sound VR pornography on his way to work? And he'll say no?
 

Thebrownblob

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There's like 5% of the population, at most, who would object. And most of them are old and don't matter.
In 10-20 years, millennials will be in their 50s. Who is going to fight it? Great-grandpa? lol.

You won't have to take their independence and offer cheap stuff. If you offer cheap pleasure and ease, people will throw their freedom at you for nothing. They don't want it.

America is dead.
Hedonism

Brave new world
Not
1984
 

wilberforce15

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“And you think principles of Truth, Justice, and The American Way will stop it? lol.”

They could but will most want to stop it?
In some places. There will be holdouts. That's why I'm moving to an area of the country with a friendly county with no crime, lots of land and resources, and the will to be different. It will matter where you live.
 

vantexan

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There's like 5% of the population, at most, who would object. And most of them are old and don't matter.
In 10-20 years, millennials will be in their 50s. Who is going to fight it? Great-grandpa? lol.

You won't have to take their independence and offer cheap stuff. If you offer cheap pleasure and ease, people will throw their freedom at you for nothing. They don't want it.

America is dead.
The relative few who use local buses might go for it but most people still want their personal space and the freedom to just jump in and go, not wait. I've been in a world where most can't afford a car and use taxis or buses. It's doable but those who can afford a car still tend to buy them. People do these things generally because it's their only option. And I spent years walking 3 miles each way to work. In a number of cities and I rarely saw anyone doing the same.
 

wilberforce15

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The relative few who use local buses might go for it but most people still want their personal space and the freedom to just jump in and go, not wait. I've been in a world where most can't afford a car and use taxis or buses. It's doable but those who can afford a car still tend to buy them. People do these things generally because it's their only option. And I spent years walking 3 miles each way to work. In a number of cities and I rarely saw anyone doing the same.
I don't think you understand the magnitude of change.

Just like Uber is bigger than the entire taxi industry was, because it didn't just take over the industry, but it expanded it, this will be the same. But an order of magnitude bigger.

There will come a time when Tesla, and others, stop selling cars to the public. Because they can just take their entire manufacturing output and make them robotaxis. I mean, they will be producing 5 to 10 to 15 million cars per year that are never sold to individuals and are exclusively used as taxis. There will come a time when a majority of vehicles on the road are taxis. There will be no wait, not any longer than it takes you to walk out the door. And the taxi will be cheaper than any car you own, even if you were to buy a 40-year-old combustion engine and fix it yourself.

Meanwhile, all the privately owned cars can be used as taxis anytime The owner wants. My car has self-driving. I will be able to send my car out as a taxi 8 to 20 hours per day, and still retain full use of it. It will charge itself. And it is still mine. But it will be a money generating machine, not an expense.

When these things can be operated for under $0.10 per mile with no supervision, everything changes.

Uber was just a better version of taxis. This is a completely different thing.
 

vantexan

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I don't think you understand the magnitude of change.

Just like Uber is bigger than the entire taxi industry was, because it didn't just take over the industry, but it expanded it, this will be the same. But an order of magnitude bigger.

There will come a time when Tesla, and others, stop selling cars to the public. Because they can just take their entire manufacturing output and make them robotaxis. I mean, they will be producing 5 to 10 to 15 million cars per year that are never sold to individuals and are exclusively used as taxis. There will come a time when a majority of vehicles on the road are taxis. There will be no wait, not any longer than it takes you to walk out the door. And the taxi will be cheaper than any car you own, even if you were to buy a 40-year-old combustion engine and fix it yourself.

Meanwhile, all the privately owned cars can be used as taxis anytime The owner wants. My car has self-driving. I will be able to send my car out as a taxi 8 to 20 hours per day, and still retain full use of it. It will charge itself. And it is still mine. But it will be a money generating machine, not an expense.

When these things can be operated for under $0.10 per mile with no supervision, everything changes.

Uber was just a better version of taxis. This is a completely different thing.
Are you in an urban/suburban area? Because someone who lives 20 miles out of town won't have the time or patience to wait for a taxi. I've been in half a dozen countries where the majority of people didn't own cars. They took buses, combis, or taxis. Taxis were cheap. When I was in Argentina recently I could take a taxi about a mile for about the equivalent of $1.70. I think you're assuming that's what everyone will want. It's great to have that option but people who could afford them owned their own vehicle. You might want to get up early to go fishing or have a picnic by the lake. Drive over to the next city to a restaurant you've heard about. Rush immediately to the hospital because your mom just had a stroke. The reasons are endless for why people want their own car. And people who have to take public transportation of any sort long for the day when they can have their own vehicle. Not to mention all the jobs that'll be lost from dealerships, parts manufacturers, parts stores, mechanics, etc. Be careful what you wish for.
 

Thebrownblob

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Are you in an urban/suburban area? Because someone who lives 20 miles out of town won't have the time or patience to wait for a taxi. I've been in half a dozen countries where the majority of people didn't own cars. They took buses, combis, or taxis. Taxis were cheap. When I was in Argentina recently I could take a taxi about a mile for about the equivalent of $1.70. I think you're assuming that's what everyone will want. It's great to have that option but people who could afford them owned their own vehicle. You might want to get up early to go fishing or have a picnic by the lake. Drive over to the next city to a restaurant you've heard about. Rush immediately to the hospital because your mom just had a stroke. The reasons are endless for why people want their own car. And people who have to take public transportation of any sort long for the day when they can have their own vehicle. Not to mention all the jobs that'll be lost from dealerships, parts manufacturers, parts stores, mechanics, etc. Be careful what you wish for.
The plan would be to make it prohibitively expensive to live anywhere, but an urban setting.
 
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vantexan

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The plan would be to make it prohibitively expensive to live anywhere, but an urban setting.
I've seen extremists suggest that. Crowd everyone into cities and leave the rest of the land people free and pristine so they can go enjoy hiking without those pesky rednecks around.
 

wilberforce15

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Are you in an urban/suburban area? Because someone who lives 20 miles out of town won't have the time or patience to wait for a taxi. I've been in half a dozen countries where the majority of people didn't own cars. They took buses, combis, or taxis. Taxis were cheap. When I was in Argentina recently I could take a taxi about a mile for about the equivalent of $1.70. I think you're assuming that's what everyone will want. It's great to have that option but people who could afford them owned their own vehicle. You might want to get up early to go fishing or have a picnic by the lake. Drive over to the next city to a restaurant you've heard about. Rush immediately to the hospital because your mom just had a stroke. The reasons are endless for why people want their own car. And people who have to take public transportation of any sort long for the day when they can have their own vehicle. Not to mention all the jobs that'll be lost from dealerships, parts manufacturers, parts stores, mechanics, etc. Be careful what you wish for.
There won't be a wait, even 20 miles outside of town. I'm talking about 10s of millions of taxis.
This taxi would be 93% cheaper than the one in Argentina.

10 cents per mile. Cheaper than you can own a car, and with no obligation and all the in-cabin entertainment.

People will take that all day long. All of those things you mention could be done cheaper and easier with robotaxis, once this plan is matured.
Yes, it will destroy jobs across all kinds of sectors. Yes, it's a bad thing for humanity and America.
I'm not calling it good. I'm telling you that it's certain. What you call "public transportation" isn't anything like this.
 

Thebrownblob

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I've seen extremists suggest that. Crowd everyone into cities and leave the rest of the land people free and pristine so they can go enjoy hiking without those pesky rednecks around.
I don’t really think it’s that extreme van look at all the things that are happening they don’t have to force people they just make it nearly impossible to survive and then they buy up all the land after you default.
 

Thebrownblob

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There won't be a wait, even 20 miles outside of town. I'm talking about 10s of millions of taxis.
This taxi would be 93% cheaper than the one in Argentina.

10 cents per mile. Cheaper than you can own a car, and with no obligation and all the in-cabin entertainment.

People will take that all day long. All of those things you mention could be done cheaper and easier with robotaxis, once this plan is matured.
Yes, it will destroy jobs across all kinds of sectors. Yes, it's a bad thing for humanity and America.
I'm not calling it good. I'm telling you that it's certain. What you call "public transportation" isn't anything like this.
They haven’t been saying you own nothing and be happy because it’s a great slogan because it’s what they want to do.
Naturally, humanity has the ability to push back, and hopefully we will but as we move further and further along, I just don’t see that happening.
 

wilberforce15

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They haven’t been saying you own nothing and be happy because it’s a great slogan because it’s what they want to do.
Naturally, humanity has the ability to push back, and hopefully we will but as we move further and further along, I just don’t see that happening.
The pushback will only be in communities with the spine and resolve to become a new kind of Amish, relative to society. There won't be many. But there will be some.

In a few short decades, there will be 30-60 million cars that don't need drivers, can operate independently 24 hours per day, and cost a dime per mile or less, with VR video games and porn and full beds. That's reality. That kind of technology will not be stopped or denied, except by a few.
 

vantexan

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There won't be a wait, even 20 miles outside of town. I'm talking about 10s of millions of taxis.
This taxi would be 93% cheaper than the one in Argentina.

10 cents per mile. Cheaper than you can own a car, and with no obligation and all the in-cabin entertainment.

People will take that all day long. All of those things you mention could be done cheaper and easier with robotaxis, once this plan is matured.
Yes, it will destroy jobs across all kinds of sectors. Yes, it's a bad thing for humanity and America.
I'm not calling it good. I'm telling you that it's certain. What you call "public transportation" isn't anything like this.
And not feasible because there isn't enough of the minerals/metals needed to produce all those millions of electric vehicles. And it might cost 10 cents a mile for the ride but there's no way the companies investing in these very expensive vehicles are only going to charge 10 cents a mile. They have to recoup their costs and make a tidy profit. In the end you'll have the wealthy with their own EV's and the rest of us crowded onto electric buses or riding electric bikes or taking electric taxis if they can afford it. A mix of options at best. You aren't making allowances with your plan for rush hour when a large amount of people are going to/from work and dropping off/picking up kids from school. If you're going to have a fleet big enough to handle that then you might as well have individual ownership. Not certain at all.
 

vantexan

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The pushback will only be in communities with the spine and resolve to become a new kind of Amish, relative to society. There won't be many. But there will be some.

In a few short decades, there will be 30-60 million cars that don't need drivers, can operate independently 24 hours per day, and cost a dime per mile or less, with VR video games and porn and full beds. That's reality. That kind of technology will not be stopped or denied, except by a few.
You envision a world where people are screwing as they're being driven around? Well that's advancing civilization!
 

vantexan

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I don’t really think it’s that extreme van look at all the things that are happening they don’t have to force people they just make it nearly impossible to survive and then they buy up all the land after you default.
And is this happening? There's a lot of theory about what might happen but the reality is people won't stand for it.
 
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