President Biden

[DriveInDriveOut]

To this day he has never said anything different. If this was Biden that said this I would be all over this as would most Trump supporters so why is there a difference?

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Explain to me what your issue with his statement is.

 

[Darmark7]

Trump was guilty of putting too much reliance on technology. He wanted a political win and had been convinced that the normal process of determining efficacy and safety was going to delay saving lives which would hurt him. "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" just doesn't work with drug testing.

It's odd how, in spite of loathing Trump and questioning everything he did, the Left embraced vaccines that Trump got pushed to market. As soon as Biden was sworn in they went from sneering at Trump vaccines to there must be total compliance. Guess it appealed to their autocratic tendencies.

Trump has never said anything different so to this day we have to believe he feels the same way. If he did feel different about the vaccine all he had to say is… I gave you warp speed so we could get things rolling but I cannot endorse or stand behind the product the pharmaceutical companies has produced. He would of been praised for warp speed and no one could blame him for the dangerous fake vax. I know people personally that would not take the vax at first but when Trump endorsed it their actual words to me was “if Trump says it’s OK then he must know it is safe” and they took the vax.
Now about Senator Tommy Tuberville. Since he voted against the bill, that is now giving his state money, he needs to say something like…. I’m glad that there are some benefits and we are getting some of those benefit even though I still stand behind voting against this bill that passed.

Explain to me what your issue with his statement is.

Do you believe the the vax is great, safe, and effective and people should take it? If so then I see why you have no problem with this.

I personally do not think it is great, safe, effective and that people should take it, so therefore I have an issue with it. As I stated above I have personal friends that loved Trump and took the vax because of what he said. They regret it now.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Explain to me what your issue with his statement is.

I personally do not think it is great, safe, effective and that people should take it, so therefore I have an issue with it. As I stated above I have personal friends that loved Trump and took the vax because of what he said. They regret it now.

So your issue is that Trump supports people having the freedom to choose whether or not they take the vaccine.

Sorry, I think people should have that choice.

I think Trump has a right to hold and speak his opinion about the vaccine. I don't have friends stupid enough to get medical advice from a politician so I don't know what to tell you about that.

 

[Darmark7]

So your issue is that Trump supports people having the freedom to choose whether or not they take the vaccine.

Sorry, I think people should have that choice.

I think Trump has a right to hold and speak his opinion about the vaccine. I don't have friends stupid enough to get medical advice from a politician so I don't know what to tell you about that.

Somehow I don’t think we would be having this same conversation if this was about Biden and not Trump. Please don’t be like a Dem and cover for Trump what you wouldn’t cover if it was Biden.

Once you go to “I don’t have friends stupid enough” I know you are butt hurt so I’ll leave it here. Go ahead get the last word. Enjoy your Sunday.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Somehow I don’t think we would be having this same conversation if this was about Biden and not Trump. Please don’t be like a Dem and cover for Trump what you wouldn’t cover if it was Biden.

Trump:
I would recommend it.... but we have our freedoms and we have to live by that.

You:
It's Trump's fault my friends chose to get the vaccine.

Me:
SMH

 

[vantexan]

Trump:
I would recommend it.... but we have our freedoms and we have to live by that.

You:
It's Trump's fault my friends chose to get the vaccine.

Me:
SMH

Freedom or not, it should have never been rushed through.

 

[UnionStrong]

Freedom or not, it should have never been rushed through.

Trump never admits when he’s wrong. And he was wrong on the “vaccine”.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Freedom or not, it should have never been rushed through.

Believing at the time that without a vaccine that people would be dying by the thousands, it needed to be rushed through. The possibility that no one would be left alive by the time it was properly vetted was the doomsday scenario.

Hindsight is always 20/20 (unless you're a liberal).

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Freedom or not, it should have never been rushed through.

I don't have any problem with it being rushed through. Rushing it through was a good thing, that was the entire point.

I have a problem with the FDA and CDC pretending it went through the same testing as other vaccines. And then they censored people who pointed that out.

They should have been more honest and open about the unknowns.

 

[vantexan]

Believing at the time that without a vaccine that people would be dying by the thousands, it needed to be rushed through. The possibility that no one would be left alive by the time it was properly vetted was the doomsday scenario.

Hindsight is always 20/20 (unless you're a liberal).

Exception to that. By the time the vaccines came out the country had been experiencing Covid for almost a year. The survival rate was very high. We knew by then that the very elderly were most vulnerable. Thus they went first with vaccinations. You can make the argument that when Trump was spurring the pharmaceutical along there were still a lot.of unknowns. But by the time he started pressuring the FDA to approve the vaccines a lot more was known. Not too much unknown by then.

 

[UnionStrong]

Exception to that. By the time the vaccines came out the country had been experiencing Covid for almost a year. The survival rate was very high. We knew by then that the very elderly were most vulnerable. Thus they went first with vaccinations. You can make the argument that when Trump was spurring the pharmaceutical along there were still a lot.of unknowns. But by the time he started pressuring the FDA to approve the vaccines a lot more was known. Not too much unknown by then.

Plus therapeutics we’re available that they lied about

 

[vantexan]

I don't have any problem with it being rushed through. Rushing it through was a good thing, that was the entire point.

I have a problem with the FDA and CDC pretending it went through the same testing as other vaccines. And then they censored people who pointed that out.

They should have been more honest and open about the unknowns.

I recall the FDA was balking at approving too soon and Trump threatening firing people if they didn't. How do you be open about the unknowns? They're unknown. It was certainly said that normal testing takes much longer and that for a normally tested drug if it had during testing the number of adverse reactions the vaccines were having it would never make it past trials. The CDC was downplaying the adverse reactions and the government, state and national, went way overboard in their mandating vaccination. But that was after Trump. We'll never know how he would've handled things but I think it's likely he'd have handled it more like DeSantis. Wouldn't have fired military for refusing vaccines.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I recall the FDA was balking at approving too soon and Trump threatening firing people if they didn't.

I don't.
I remember the left lying about that.
Democrats were very anti vaccine right up to the election, then they flipped a switch and were all for it.

 

[vantexan]

I don't.
I remember the left lying about that.
Democrats were very anti vaccine right up to the election, then they flipped a switch and were all for it.

I agree that they flipped. I also remember Trump very clearly stating that people would get fired if the vaccines weren't approved soon. That was a major point in his reelection campaign, that he got things pushed through.

 

[oldngray]

I agree that they flipped. I also remember Trump very clearly stating that people would get fired if the vaccines weren't approved soon. That was a major point in his reelection campaign, that he got things pushed through.

I never heard of Trump ever saying people would get fired for not taking the vaccine. Quite the opposite where he supported their right to choose for themselves. Some of the people supposedly working for him like Fauci were the problem.

 

[UnionStrong]

I never heard of Trump ever saying people would get fired for not taking the vaccine. Quite the opposite where he supported their right to choose for themselves. Some of the people supposedly working for him like Fauci were the problem.

Trump got bamboozled

 

[oldngray]

Trump got bamboozled

He listened to the "experts" at first.

 

[vantexan]

I never heard of Trump ever saying people would get fired for not taking the vaccine. Quite the opposite where he supported their right to choose for themselves. Some of the people supposedly working for him like Fauci were the problem.

No, not that. He threatened to fire people at the FDA if they didn't get the vaccines approved.

 

[newolddude]

No, not that. He threatened to fire people at the FDA if they didn't get the vaccines approved.

He also did this.

Trump threatens to deprive New York of ‘amazing’ COVID-19 vaccine as infection levels spike

You’ve been fired, Don. Get used to it. President Trump threatened Friday to deprive New Yorkers of COVID-19 vaccinations until Gov. Cuomo drops his demand for an independent efficacy review …

www.nydailynews.com

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I also remember Trump very clearly stating that people would get fired if the vaccines weren't approved soon.

Interesting.
I don't.
Got a link?