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realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
This isnt true. Dick Cheney was below the pentagon, had updates as to the planes location starting when it was 100 miles away and approaching. The 9/11 commission heard testimony that Cheney was advised in 10 mile increments.

PAY ATTENTION brotha.

TOS.
Wrong.

Not according to this website on Cheney's timeline on 9/11.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?day_of_9/11=dickcheney&timeline=complete_911_timeline

At the pentagon, where did you get that?
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
In terms of 9/11 being an inside government job...

That line of thinking makes no sense.

The amount of people necessary to pull off a 9/11 'false flag' scenario rises into multiple hundreds, none of whom, fifteen years later, have ever surfaced.

Occam's razor.

So, we can't trust government forces to get our health care or our taxes or anything else right, but we could think that they could pull off the biggest 'heist' in history right under our noses, and get away with it?

Not so much.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
So you're an expert on commercial aircraft now? Sounds like you're trying to avoid the two questions I asked. Probably because there is no reasonable answer. That's exactly what republicans are good at, avoiding the real questions.

you say 747 and then wish to insult someone here as being poorly educated? you're the one that pointed the gun at your head he just pulled the trigger.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
This isnt true. Dick Cheney was below the pentagon, had updates as to the planes location starting when it was 100 miles away and approaching. The 9/11 commission heard testimony that Cheney was advised in 10 mile increments.

PAY ATTENTION brotha.

TOS.

craaaaaaaazzzzzzzyyyy
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
In terms of 9/11 being an inside government job...

That line of thinking makes no sense.

The amount of people necessary to pull off a 9/11 'false flag' scenario rises into multiple hundreds, none of whom, fifteen years later, have ever surfaced.

Occam's razor.

So, we can't trust government forces to get our health care or our taxes or anything else right, but we could think that they could pull off the biggest 'heist' in history right under our noses, and get away with it?

Not so much.
Of course it doesn't make any sense to rational folk, but it's a conspiracy theory and conspiracy theories are fueled by emotion not reason. The truthers are no different than the birthers and no less impervious to facts and evidence.
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
craaaaaaaazzzzzzzyyyy

Surprise?? Hardly.


(9:26 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Cheney Given Updates on Unidentified Flight 77 Heading toward Washington; Says ‘Orders Still Stand’; but Accounts Differ on Timing and Identity of the Plane

According to some accounts, Vice President Dick Cheney is in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) below the White House by this time, along with Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta and others. Mineta will recall that, while a suspicious plane is heading toward Washington, an unidentified young man comes in and says to Cheney, “The plane is 50 miles out.” Mineta confers with acting FAA Deputy Administrator Monte Belger, who is at the FAA’s Washington headquarters. Belger says to him: “We’re watching this target on the radar, but the transponder’s been turned off. So we have no identification.” According to Mineta, the young man continues updating the vice president, saying, “The plane is 30 miles out,” and when he gets down to “The plane is 10 miles out,” asks, “Do the orders still stand?” In response, Cheney “whipped his neck around and said, ‘Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?’” Mineta will say that, “just by the nature of all the events going on,” he infers that the order being referred to is a shootdown order. Nevertheless, Flight 77 continues on and hits the Pentagon. [BBC, 9/1/2002; 9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003; 9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003; St. Petersburg Times, 7/4/2004] However, the 9/11 Commission will later claim the plane heading toward Washington is only discovered by the Dulles Airport air traffic control tower at 9:32 a.m. (see 9:32 a.m. September 11, 2001). But earlier accounts, including statements made by the FAA and NORAD, will claim that the FAA notified the military about the suspected hijacking of Flight 77 at 9:24 a.m., if not before (see (9:24 a.m.) September 11, 2001). The FBI’s Washington Field Office was also reportedly notified that Flight 77 had been hijacked at about 9:20 a.m. (see (9:20 a.m.) September 11, 2001). The 9/11 Commission will further contradict Mineta’s account saying that, despite the “conflicting evidence as to when the vice president arrived in the shelter conference room [i.e., the PEOC],” it has concluded that he only arrived there at 9:58 a.m. [9/11 Commission, 6/17/2004] According to the Washington Post, the discussion between Cheney and the young aide over whether “the orders” still stand occurs later than claimed by Mineta, and is in response to Flight 93 heading toward Washington, not Flight 77.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The funny thing about these tinfoil nutjob conspiracies is they distract from the real questions people should be asking about our foreign policy in the aftermath of the tragedy.
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