President Obama!

newfie

Well-Known Member
As usual, you link a site that KILLS your argument.

I imagine, that you didnt bother to READ any of those proposed bills first before you linked it, right?

Most of them are union busting bills.

Again, nothing to help americans, just employers.

I loved the one where they proposed REDUCING the scheduled minimum wage... YEAH, your party just loves the American worker.

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TOS.
you should enjoy this crow its black

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milb

Respected Member
That's a jobs bill?
Here's the full text of the bill:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s1124/text


How many jobs did it create? I'll help you...none.

Your 'jobs bill' is amendments to a bill from the Clinton era.
Looks like the jobs report went pretty well. AGAIN! I don't understand the part time jobs argument if it is feeding your family. This helps move people out of the unemployment line. Now they can spend money for food instead of food stamps.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Looks like the jobs report went pretty well. AGAIN! I don't understand the part time jobs argument if it is feeding your family. This helps move people out of the unemployment line. Now they can spend money for food instead of food stamps.

the point that even Bernie Saunders makes is that the jobs report is not accurate nor does it reflect the huge number of the unemployed.

to go there you have to look at your labor participation rate which is the lowest its been in decades.

then do some indepth study of of the federal jobs report . supposedly 2 million workers suddenly entered the job market in march that had not been there since the crash. where were they how did they eat?

The federal jobs report is government propaganda to allow you to believe that things are better then they are.
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
crappy job

It doesnt say he did a "Crappy" job at all. IT says that he didnt go far enough to the left to satisfy hard core liberals.

This country is wAAAAy better off than it was under GW BUSH, and if you believe otherwise, then your voting priviledges need to be revoked.

TOS.
 

milb

Respected Member
the point that even Bernie Saunders makes is that the jobs report is not accurate nor does it reflect the huge number of the unemployed.

to go there you have to look at your labor participation rate which is the lowest its been in decades.

then do some indepth study of of the federal jobs report . supposedly 2 million workers suddenly entered the job market in march that had not been there since the crash. where were they how did they eat?

The federal jobs report is government propaganda to allow you to believe that things are better then they are.
Same report they have been using for decades. Funny how its wrong since Obama took office.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
It doesnt say he did a "Crappy" job at all. IT says that he didnt go far enough to the left to satisfy hard core liberals.

This country is wAAAAy better off than it was under GW BUSH, and if you believe otherwise, then your voting priviledges need to be revoked.

TOS.
You know there is a cure for BDS .

You know you're right this country is way better off .
Racial tensions are at an all time record , foreign residents are free to walk our streets without subjecting themselves to any health inspectors , our school system have taught the children that they are all special and that they should demand safe places to avoid interactions with people different from themselves .
The voting rights of the people have been switched back to the good old days of when all political decisions were conducted in the cigar smoke filled back rooms .
A newly arrived person has a better chance of getting a job , they can also apply for free medical insurance , free welfare assistance , free housing , they can perform any deed that was acceptable behavior in the old country easily here , most without any repercussions .
Men and women no longer have to conform to any set gender requirements .
And in the past 8 years the only industry that the president has been trying to stop is the one that is the most thriving one .
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
You know there is a cure for BDS .

You know you're right this country is way better off .
Racial tensions are at an all time record , foreign residents are free to walk our streets without subjecting themselves to any health inspectors , our school system have taught the children that they are all special and that they should demand safe places to avoid interactions with people different from themselves .
The voting rights of the people have been switched back to the good old days of when all political decisions were conducted in the cigar smoke filled back rooms .
A newly arrived person has a better chance of getting a job , they can also apply for free medical insurance , free welfare assistance , free housing , they can perform any deed that was acceptable behavior in the old country easily here , most without any repercussions .
Men and women no longer have to conform to any set gender requirements .
And in the past 8 years the only industry that the president has been trying to stop is the one that is the most thriving one .
Just to clarify, are you suggesting Obama caused these things, or just didn't fix them?
Seems to me it's the same as it ever was. Status quo, that's what you get in a two party system.
 

milb

Respected Member
You know there is a cure for BDS .

You know you're right this country is way better off .
Racial tensions are at an all time record , foreign residents are free to walk our streets without subjecting themselves to any health inspectors , our school system have taught the children that they are all special and that they should demand safe places to avoid interactions with people different from themselves .
The voting rights of the people have been switched back to the good old days of when all political decisions were conducted in the cigar smoke filled back rooms .
A newly arrived person has a better chance of getting a job , they can also apply for free medical insurance , free welfare assistance , free housing , they can perform any deed that was acceptable behavior in the old country easily here , most without any repercussions .
Men and women no longer have to conform to any set gender requirements .
And in the past 8 years the only industry that the president has been trying to stop is the one that is the most thriving one .
Cigar filled black rooms, guess we are talking convention now?
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
It doesnt say he did a "Crappy" job at all. IT says that he didnt go far enough to the left to satisfy hard core liberals.

This country is wAAAAy better off than it was under GW BUSH, and if you believe otherwise, then your voting priviledges need to be revoked.

TOS.

Ah lets see the right hates him , the left hates him, the Clintons hate him. Bill Clinton himself has made two speeches recently where he has commented on what a crappy job Obama did. that my friend is a crappy job.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Same report they have been using for decades. Funny how its wrong since Obama took office.

you did not read everything I posted. you will never learn anything if you don't pay attention or you're so worried about a rebuttal that you jump too soon.

you have to compare the unemployment report which at best is an estimate with the labor participation report and with the various wage scale , hours worked and productivity report.

when you do you see that labor participation is hovering at an all time low rate which debunks the unemployment number. That number has not been this low since Carter.

so yes if a past administration had a high labor participation rate and a low unemployment number then they were doing well.

Now again focus and ask yourself where those two million job seekers came from that were suddenly added to the payrolls in march? They have to live and eat. Where were they all this time?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Ah lets see the right hates him , the left hates him, the Clintons hate him. Bill Clinton himself has made two speeches recently where he has commented on what a crappy job Obama did. that my friend is a crappy job.
Do you make all your assumptions based on what other people think? Baaaahhh....
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
you did not read everything I posted. you will never learn anything if you don't pay attention or you're so worried about a rebuttal that you jump too soon.

you have to compare the unemployment report which at best is an estimate with the labor participation report and with the various wage scale , hours worked and productivity report.

when you do you see that labor participation is hovering at an all time low rate which debunks the unemployment number. That number has not been this low since Carter.

so yes if a past administration had a high labor participation rate and a low unemployment number then they were doing well.

Now again focus and ask yourself where those two million job seekers came from that were suddenly added to the payrolls in march? They have to live and eat. Where were they all this time?
#punctuationmatters
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-...and-province-a-year-after-withdrawal-1.403632

CAMP SHORAB, Afghanistan — The last time the U.S.-led coalition brought a group of journalists here to Helmand province was in October 2014 to document the withdrawal of American and British troops, on a trip designed to signal that U.S. involvement in the war really was ending.

This week, coalition officials brought journalists back, as a way of saying, "Never mind" - and to make the case that the United States may want to consider staying on.

After what was supposed to be a withdrawal from one of Afghanistan's most restive provinces, about 500 soldiers from the U.S. Army's 10th Mountain Division rushed back into Helmand in February. The Afghan army, left on its own, had failed to live up to expectations. Now, once again, U.S. forces are in place, trying to toughen up a force that remains too timid.
 
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