Until witnesses and evidence are produced in court to corroborate your claims I'm as blind as a bat. So far in the impeachment inquiry no evidence of a crime, no fact witness testimony, has been produced.
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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That was my first thought-----characterizing this as bribery would be a stretch.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Dear Brick,
Trump is not allowing the first-hand witnesses to testify. Just add some more Obstruction of Justice to the existing charges.
Love,
MrFedex
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
What if the whole Trump administration is grease?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Withholding an item of monetary value until a person or persons "do you a favor" is not bribery.
It seems that according to the first sentence of the definition in Blacks Law Dictionary, that is exactly why bribery is.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
You mean in the Shiffhole meetings?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I think the difference here is that person or persons being asked to do the favor had no idea that he was due to receive military aid and that he was being asked to help out in exchange for that aid, which he was going to get whether he helped out or not?
Was it just a coincidence that Trump chose to test a newbie? Do you think he would have tried to pull this crap with a seasoned political leader?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You need to read your link again:
With regard to governmental operations, essentially, bribery is "Corrupt solicitation, acceptance, or transfer of value in exchange for official action."
There was nothing corrupt about what Trump asked.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Who believes anything from a Black?
I think that’s a stretch.
Congress appropriated the money. The whole world knew it was there.
During a 55 day delay, Trump asks “for a favor”.
Two days after the whistleblower comes forward, the money is released.
How long would the Ukrainian President have waited before he asked more questions about when the money was coming? Did Giuliani make it clear what was expected bec it doesn’t seem the state department had any holds on the money.
Most white girls with daddy issues.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Trump released the money before the fiscal year end fulfilling his legal obligation of the congressionally appropriated funds.
No wrongdoing.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
The Schiffhole is in the White House tweeting insults...because he is very afraid. I look at the way Bretbart and FOX characterize the hearings and then I look at the facts, which add-up to a corrupt president and administration.
Trump has always been a liar and crook. He's just president now, and doing his same old act.
None of you see it. Can I interest you in a Yugo franchise?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Eric Ciaramella, who worked on US Ukrainian relations under Joe Biden, claims to be a whistleblower when he finds out the corruption he was a part of might be investigated at Trump's request.
Ya, nothing to see here.
SMH.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Putting the money back in the bank after you rob it doesn't clear you, Fren. The criminality lies in withholding the funds in the first place for political gain, as in extortion.
TTKU...
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Nothing to see. So shut it.
Thom Hartmann
@Thom_Hartmann
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Nov 15
Poor Grifter Don. His fellow grifters are going down one after the other, and he lives in fear that they'll flip on him like Michael Cohen did. Discussions of pardons will no doubt follow soon.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· Nov 15
So they now convict Roger Stone of lying and want to jail him for many years to come. Well, what about Crooked Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Shifty Schiff, Ohr & Nellie, Steele & all of the others, including even Mueller himself? Didn’t they lie?....
Public Citizen
@Public_Citizen
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Nov 15
Reminder: Witness intimidation — on its own — is an impeachable offense.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· Nov 15
Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors.
