President Trump
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Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Sportello
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The probable cause was bank fraud, wire fraud and campaign finance violations. Mueller would go to Rosenstein, who in turn would decide where and how the investigation would be pursued.
Do you really not know this?
floridays
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I guess you missed how it can't be tied to Trump then, besides the back door. I certainly know more than you.
Sportello
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Mueller's mandate was for investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election. If he uncovered evidence of other crimes he would go to Rosenstein, who would make any determinations as to pursuing the evidence. To execute three simultaneous no knock seaches on a sitting president's lawyer would require a pretty high bar, don't you think?
I have a feeling we will soon find out.
floridays
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Only as high as the bar seems to be for appointing the special counsel initially. They have absolutely nothing but process crimes to date.
But collusion isn’t a crime. I guess it’s a colloquialism.
Personally I think they should just say “conspiracy”.
Overall, with the special counsel having such broad range, I’m confident that far more than “process crimes” that you seem to dismiss will soon be uncovered by the investigation.
floridays
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Usually is the operative word.
floridays
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Sam, believe it or not, I'm getting tired of arguing.
It’s internet chat. It means nothing.Sam, believe it or not, I'm getting tired of arguing.
floridays
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I know, still gettin tired though.
Tired is better than ashamed so there’s that.
Opinion | The Law Is Coming, Mr. Trump
"Mr. Trump has spent his career in the company of developers and celebrities, and also of grifters, cons, sharks, goons and crooks. He cuts corners, he lies, he cheats, he brags about it, and for the most part, he’s gotten away with it, protected by threats of litigation, hush money and his own bravado. Those methods may be proving to have their limits when they are applied from the Oval Office. Though Republican leaders in Congress still keep a cowardly silence, Mr. Trump now has real reason to be afraid. A raid on a lawyer’s office doesn’t happen every day; it means that multiple government officials, and a federal judge, had reason to believe they’d find evidence of a crime there and that they didn’t trust the lawyer not to destroy that evidence."
"Mr. Trump has spent his career in the company of developers and celebrities, and also of grifters, cons, sharks, goons and crooks. He cuts corners, he lies, he cheats, he brags about it, and for the most part, he’s gotten away with it, protected by threats of litigation, hush money and his own bravado. Those methods may be proving to have their limits when they are applied from the Oval Office. Though Republican leaders in Congress still keep a cowardly silence, Mr. Trump now has real reason to be afraid. A raid on a lawyer’s office doesn’t happen every day; it means that multiple government officials, and a federal judge, had reason to believe they’d find evidence of a crime there and that they didn’t trust the lawyer not to destroy that evidence."
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Turdferguson
Just a turd
Oh the irony.....
And the guy/gal/it who suggests others aren't as bright as he/she/it is has issues.
The same people saying that now use to crow what a swell guy he was, a true champion of race relations, a contributor to he Democrat cause. If he had remained a Democrat and had won the nomination, then the presidency, the very same people would have their lips pressed tightly against his rear end. They would have been the ones going after Jimmy Kimmel over ridiculing Melania. They would be the ones squelching any negativity in the press.
It's OK to reevaluate your opinion of someone you formerly respected if their professed beliefs and behavior change. Trump's did, in a big way. So what's the problem?
Defending anybody whose personal lawyer just had 3 simultaneous no knock raids conducted against them due to an apparent mountain of evidence that triggered the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege is the ultimate form of butt kissing.
And I'm sorry, but I couldn't defend any Democrat whose Democrat-appointed justice system had seen the kind of evidence needed to green-light that action. If the FBI is walking through your lawyer's doors unannounced, you're probably guilty as
. It's just not a defensible position regardless of your party affiliation.OK, apply that to Hillary. She broke the law, and was covered by the Obama DOJ. And she will be defended by Democrats ad nauseam. And my point still stands, if Trump had won as a Democrat there'd be no special counsel, and the Press would breathlessly praise every tweet.It's OK to reevaluate your opinion of someone you formerly respected if their professed beliefs and behavior change. Trump's did, in a big way. So what's the problem?
Defending anybody whose personal lawyer just had 3 simultaneous no knock raids conducted against them due to an apparent mountain of evidence that triggered the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege is the ultimate form of butt kissing.
And I'm sorry, but I couldn't defend any Democrat whose Democrat-appointed justice system had seen the kind of evidence needed to green-light that action. If the FBI is walking through your lawyer's doors unannounced, you're probably guilty as
