Promoting racism, division and hate...Critical Race Theory.

refineryworker05

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From my rudimentary understanding, CRT at its core is trying to answer a few questions. For example, Now that legal discrimination has been eliminated, why do black Americans still face discrimination? Now that legal discrimination has been eliminated why do these huge racial gaps still exist?

CRT tries to come up with answers to those questions.
And because some of those answers indicates American society is still racist towards black Americans, a position that is always controversial to utter, a lot of people don't like CRT for that reason and then instead of debating the merits, they go out and distort and lie about CRT to mfers who aren't going to read anything about CRT and who have prejudiced beliefs about the state of the world.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
And because some of those answers indicates American society is still racist towards black Americans, a position that is always controversial to utter, a lot of people don't like CRT for that reason and then instead of debating the merits, they go out and distort and lie about CRT to mfers who aren't going to read anything about CRT and who have prejudiced beliefs about the state of the world.
Critical race theory is racist and so are the people who support it.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
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quad decade guy

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crt is trying to understand how despite legalized racist laws being off the books, why do black Americans still experience racism and why do huge racial disparities still exist. CRT tries to answer those questions
Ask Lightfoot. She runs Chicago.....about racism......she promotes it everyday....in broad daylight.

CRT "tries" to blame white people for systemic flaws/philosophy of the black people. When in reality....their problems are generally....self-inflicted.
 

vantexan

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crt is trying to understand how despite legalized racist laws being off the books, why do black Americans still experience racism and why do huge racial disparities still exist. CRT tries to answer those questions
When intact families aren't emphasized, when completing education isn't emphasized, outcomes often aren't that great. You can choose to make foundational changes, or you can complain how racist the world is against you because you aren't getting that good paying job or you and your friends are being arrested at high rates because you deal drugs on the side. There's a side of the black community that works very hard, got the education, and are succeeding. And there's a side that has experienced decades of government dependency, lives in deteriorating tenements, deals with crime and drugs either directly or indirectly almost every day, and thinks everything is the white man's fault. Do you think more government programs will fix that?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
When intact families aren't emphasized, when completing education isn't emphasized, outcomes often aren't that great. You can choose to make foundational changes, or you can complain how racist the world is against you because you aren't getting that good paying job or you and your friends are being arrested at high rates because you deal drugs on the side. There's a side of the black community that works very hard, got the education, and are succeeding. And there's a side that has experienced decades of government dependency, lives in deteriorating tenements, deals with crime and drugs either directly or indirectly almost every day, and thinks everything is the white man's fault. Do you think more government programs will fix that?
He is a racist.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
When intact families aren't emphasized, when completing education isn't emphasized, outcomes often aren't that great. You can choose to make foundational changes, or you can complain how racist the world is against you because you aren't getting that good paying job or you and your friends are being arrested at high rates because you deal drugs on the side. There's a side of the black community that works very hard, got the education, and are succeeding. And there's a side that has experienced decades of government dependency, lives in deteriorating tenements, deals with crime and drugs either directly or indirectly almost every day, and thinks everything is the white man's fault. Do you think more government programs will fix that?
There are over 40 million black Americans spread throughout the 50 states, the belief that black people in Jackson MS have the same culture as black people in Compton CA doesn't make sense without admitting that black people get treated differently(experience widespread anti-black racism) in America. The idea that those black people have a common culture that supersedes American culture or the local culture of CA or MS doesn't make sense, unless a person admits the reason why black Americans may have a common culture is because they are treated differently(experience widespread anti black racism) than other Americans.

99.999% of black Americans have never met other black Americans. For example if a black person knows 10,000 other black people, they still haven't met over 99.9% of all black Americans. Black American's cultural traditions are American. So the idea that black Americans separate from other Americans would have uniquely degenerate cultural values is the racist position, but more importantly it doesn't make sense if you believe that black Americans don't experience wide spread racism, then why would they have a separate culture?
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
When intact families aren't emphasized, when completing education isn't emphasized, outcomes often aren't that great. You can choose to make foundational changes, or you can complain how racist the world is against you because you aren't getting that good paying job or you and your friends are being arrested at high rates because you deal drugs on the side. There's a side of the black community that works very hard, got the education, and are succeeding. And there's a side that has experienced decades of government dependency, lives in deteriorating tenements, deals with crime and drugs either directly or indirectly almost every day, and thinks everything is the white man's fault. Do you think more government programs will fix that?
The other thing is we take American social issues like single parent homes, or poor educational outcomes, drug addiction, crime, etc and transform those issues into collective black racial failure caused by what is wrong within the black race. This is a racist understanding of social problems. The idea that black Americans are victims of government dependency and that dependency has created some black pathologies is again racist and ahistorical.

In reality for most of American history black Americans were deprived of nearly ALL government assistance while still paying taxes. What we see if we look at reality is a massive THEFT of tax money from black American taxpayers who were shut out of nearly all government programs into the pockets of white Americans, which benefitted from all kinds of government programs, into the pockets of white owned businesses, into building the infrastructure of segregated white neighborhoods, into segregated white universities, etc.
It is this theft of black tax dollars and racist government policy that has led to higher white homeownership rates, the huge educational gains made by white men returning from WW2 which were cut off from black vets due to outright racism, It was this theft that lead to the building of housing wealth and homeownership programs that again black Americans were shut out from. It went directly into the pockets of white business in the form of government contracts that black Americans were shut out from.

What we do in America is friend black people over, steal from them disinvest in the areas they live, and the schools they attend, and then turn around and say well look, there is just something collectively wrong within the black race.

You have a distorted view of American history and of reality.

White Americans by far and away are the largest recipients of government handouts and money per capita and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. So if getting money from the government created dependency then white Americans are the most dependent and it is not even close.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Ask Lightfoot. She runs Chicago.....about racism......she promotes it everyday....in broad daylight.

CRT "tries" to blame white people for systemic flaws/philosophy of the black people. When in reality....their problems are generally....self-inflicted.
Your point about lightfoot and chicago is irrational. Your second sentence is the whole ball game. A lot of Americans believe that something is collectively wrong within the black race. This is racist, but a lot of Americans do believe this racist bs.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The other thing is we take American social issues like single parent homes, or poor educational outcomes, drug addiction, crime, etc and transform those issues into collective black racial failure caused by what is wrong within the black race. This is a racist understanding of social problems. The idea that black Americans are victims of government dependency and that dependency has created some black pathologies is again racist and ahistorical.

In reality for most of American history black Americans were deprived of nearly ALL government assistance while still paying taxes. What we see if we look at reality is a massive THEFT of tax money from black American taxpayers who were shut out of nearly all government programs into the pockets of white Americans, which benefitted from all kinds of government programs, into the pockets of white owned businesses, into building the infrastructure of segregated white neighborhoods, into segregated white universities, etc.
It is this theft of black tax dollars and racist government policy that has led to higher white homeownership rates, the huge educational gains made by white men returning from WW2 which were cut off from black vets due to outright racism, It was this theft that lead to the building of housing wealth and homeownership programs that again black Americans were shut out from. It went directly into the pockets of white business in the form of government contracts that black Americans were shut out from.

What we do in America is friend black people over, steal from them disinvest in the areas they live, and the schools they attend, and then turn around and say well look, there is just something collectively wrong within the black race.

You have a distorted view of American history and of reality.

White Americans by far and away are the largest recipients of government handouts and money per capita and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. So if getting money from the government created dependency then white Americans are the most dependent and it is not even close.
Wow that's a long post to spew your racist beliefs.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
Your point about lightfoot and chicago is irrational. Your second sentence is the whole ball game. A lot of Americans believe that something is collectively wrong within the black race. This is racist, but a lot of Americans do believe this racist bs.
No one will read all the crap you just typed.
First because you wrote it and second, it’s too :censored2:ing long.😴😴
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
There are over 40 million black Americans spread throughout the 50 states, the belief that black people in Jackson MS have the same culture as black people in Compton CA doesn't make sense without admitting that black people get treated differently(experience widespread anti-black racism) in America. The idea that those black people have a common culture that supersedes American culture or the local culture of CA or MS doesn't make sense, unless a person admits the reason why black Americans may have a common culture is because they are treated differently(experience widespread anti black racism) than other Americans.

99.999% of black Americans have never met other black Americans. For example if a black person knows 10,000 other black people, they still haven't met over 99.9% of all black Americans. Black American's cultural traditions are American. So the idea that black Americans separate from other Americans would have uniquely degenerate cultural values is the racist position, but more importantly it doesn't make sense if you believe that black Americans don't experience wide spread racism, then why would they have a separate culture?
You might want to take another look at that. Inner city black neighborhoods of major cities have a lot in common. Nowhere did I say that all blacks do this, or all blacks do that.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The other thing is we take American social issues like single parent homes, or poor educational outcomes, drug addiction, crime, etc and transform those issues into collective black racial failure caused by what is wrong within the black race. This is a racist understanding of social problems. The idea that black Americans are victims of government dependency and that dependency has created some black pathologies is again racist and ahistorical.

In reality for most of American history black Americans were deprived of nearly ALL government assistance while still paying taxes. What we see if we look at reality is a massive THEFT of tax money from black American taxpayers who were shut out of nearly all government programs into the pockets of white Americans, which benefitted from all kinds of government programs, into the pockets of white owned businesses, into building the infrastructure of segregated white neighborhoods, into segregated white universities, etc.
It is this theft of black tax dollars and racist government policy that has led to higher white homeownership rates, the huge educational gains made by white men returning from WW2 which were cut off from black vets due to outright racism, It was this theft that lead to the building of housing wealth and homeownership programs that again black Americans were shut out from. It went directly into the pockets of white business in the form of government contracts that black Americans were shut out from.

What we do in America is friend black people over, steal from them disinvest in the areas they live, and the schools they attend, and then turn around and say well look, there is just something collectively wrong within the black race.

You have a distorted view of American history and of reality.

White Americans by far and away are the largest recipients of government handouts and money per capita and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. So if getting money from the government created dependency then white Americans are the most dependent and it is not even close.
Most of American history would be inaccurate. Slaves didn't pay taxes. And it's a fact that well intentioned programs set requirements that were very destructive to black families. Children without fathers in the home are much more likely to end up poor and impoverished no matter what race they belong to. Kids that drop out of school are much more likely to do the same no matter what race they belong to. At some point you're going to have to stop blaming whites for everything and fix your own problems. Why would anyone else care about you if you refuse to care about yourselves? Again, this only really applies to those who've become dependent on government aid and that does apply to all races. But you've repeatedly attacked white conservatives, saying we're always this or that. Fix your own house. Screaming about the past won't fix the future.
 

refineryworker05

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You might want to take another look at that. Inner city black neighborhoods of major cities have a lot in common. Nowhere did I say that all blacks do this, or all blacks do that.
You might learn something if you can think. If you believe "inner city black neighborhoods of major cities have a lot in common, what would those things in common be? Which cities are you talking about? What are the regional differences in those cities? Do they all have the same educational, job opportunities? Then I'd ask you to research how did these neighborhoods become majority black? What happened to the money invested those areas once they became majority black? What happened to job opportunities in those majority black areas? There are many more questions you should ask yourself before falling back on the lie of collective black racial pathology.

If you really think what you'll see is that there are differences between those cities, you'll also see similar policy decisions once those areas became majority black which impacted job and educational opportunities, which really focused on investing in the areas where white people moved to and not investing in the areas where those black people lived.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Most of American history would be inaccurate. Slaves didn't pay taxes. And it's a fact that well intentioned programs set requirements that were very destructive to black families. Children without fathers in the home are much more likely to end up poor and impoverished no matter what race they belong to. Kids that drop out of school are much more likely to do the same no matter what race they belong to. At some point you're going to have to stop blaming whites for everything and fix your own problems. Why would anyone else care about you if you refuse to care about yourselves? Again, this only really applies to those who've become dependent on government aid and that does apply to all races. But you've repeatedly attacked white conservatives, saying we're always this or that. Fix your own house. Screaming about the past won't fix the future.
You posted "Slaves didn't pay taxes", Smh, like what are you talking about man? First there were free black people, but more importantly Black Americans have been paying taxes from the start of America.
Finally income taxes which is what I am talking about didn't become a thing in America until the 1910's or 1920's and black people were paying those taxes while being denied nearly all benefits from those taxes. Black people would live in states and cities pay taxes and get little or nothing in return for decade after decade and while their tax dollars went directly to enriching segregated white neighborhoods, white business owners, segregated universities, That was the greatest theft of wealth from black Americans to white Americans.
Its not a fact that well intentioned programs destroyed black families. Again no group of Americans have received more government handouts than white Americans per capita, why didn't those programs destroy white families? Your examples about fatherless children or children dropping out of school is an issue of poverty, if you don't want children to grow up in poverty then ensure all children don't grow up in poverty. If you don't want children dropping out of school, then create educational conditions that prevents children from dropping of school.

At some point you'll have to stop lying nothing I posted blamed white people for anything. I am discussing government tax policy, housing policies, policies about education. Black Americans don't have their own problems separate from America. This is the racist bs. American social problems are caused by the failures of American society not collective black racial failure.

If you think black Americans don't care about themselves..... Again man you have a very bigoted view point of black people.

White people right now are the most dependent on government aid per capita. White Americans were the beneficiaries of numerous government programs paid for in part with income taxes paid by black Americans which went into creating segregated white neighborhoods, which went directly to white business owners, which went to paying for segregated universities and white students to attend for free. A huge foundation of white American wealth is the direct result of this theft from black Americans. No group has benefited more from government handouts than white Americans per capita. The idea that black people are dependent on the government is racist bs.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You might learn something if you can think. If you believe "inner city black neighborhoods of major cities have a lot in common, what would those things in common be? Which cities are you talking about? What are the regional differences in those cities? Do they all have the same educational, job opportunities? Then I'd ask you to research how did these neighborhoods become majority black? What happened to the money invested those areas once they became majority black? What happened to job opportunities in those majority black areas? There are many more questions you should ask yourself before falling back on the lie of collective black racial pathology.

If you really think what you'll see is that there are differences between those cities, you'll also see similar policy decisions once those areas became majority black which impacted job and educational opportunities, which really focused on investing in the areas where white people moved to and not investing in the areas where those black people lived.
Yes, it's everyone else's fault. Blacks aren't to blame for anything.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You posted "Slaves didn't pay taxes", Smh, like what are you talking about man? First there were free black people, but more importantly Black Americans have been paying taxes from the start of America.
Finally income taxes which is what I am talking about didn't become a thing in America until the 1910's or 1920's and black people were paying those taxes while being denied nearly all benefits from those taxes. Black people would live in states and cities pay taxes and get little or nothing in return for decade after decade and while their tax dollars went directly to enriching segregated white neighborhoods, white business owners, segregated universities, That was the greatest theft of wealth from black Americans to white Americans.
Its not a fact that well intentioned programs destroyed black families. Again no group of Americans have received more government handouts than white Americans per capita, why didn't those programs destroy white families? Your examples about fatherless children or children dropping out of school is an issue of poverty, if you don't want children to grow up in poverty then ensure all children don't grow up in poverty. If you don't want children dropping out of school, then create educational conditions that prevents children from dropping of school.

At some point you'll have to stop lying nothing I posted blamed white people for anything. I am discussing government tax policy, housing policies, policies about education. Black Americans don't have their own problems separate from America. This is the racist bs. American social problems are caused by the failures of American society not collective black racial failure.

If you think black Americans don't care about themselves..... Again man you have a very bigoted view point of black people.

White people right now are the most dependent on government aid per capita. White Americans were the beneficiaries of numerous government programs paid for in part with income taxes paid by black Americans which went into creating segregated white neighborhoods, which went directly to white business owners, which went to paying for segregated universities and white students to attend for free. A huge foundation of white American wealth is the direct result of this theft from black Americans. No group has benefited more from government handouts than white Americans per capita. The idea that black people are dependent on the government is racist bs.
You seem to not recognize anything that has happened from the 60's until today. No one is claiming there wasn't racial injustice. But efforts were made to rectify those injustices. But at what point do you admit the playing field has been leveled and there are opportunities for blacks and many have taken those opportunities? That those who haven't and still blame the past for their ongoing issues aren't ever going to see the world they want? You say you don't blame whites then immediately talk about whites this and that. As for past taxes if blacks were doing so well that huge amounts of taxes were being taken from them then what was the problem? The fact is most blacks weren't doing well economically and their overall percentage of the population was such that relatively little of the government's revenue was coming from blacks. Whites by far provided the most in taxes to the government. To say black taxes did this or that for whites is an unbelievable stretch. But I will concede that the government at all levels did very little for the black population. Until the 60's.
 
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