Quadruple time 9.5 penalty isn’t enough to deter the company. How much would it take?

[Thebrownblob]

Lets just say I was so cold that I bought another fax machine so I could send in 9.5 papers on Friday evening when I got home. Didn’t want stewards holding my papers for a few weeks.

 

[Over70irregs]

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Think of all the passive $ we left on the table by not filing? There’s more but I digress.

 

[oldngray]

Who still buys fax machines?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Who still buys fax machines?

the bitcoin guy

 

[Thebrownblob]

Think of all the passive $ we left on the table by not filing? There’s more but I digress.

Who’s not filing?

 

[Over70irregs]

Who still buys fax machines?

That is what they figured out. Especially when I didn’t hand them to steward any more. I was especially fond of the duplicate copy forms with the yellow sheet.

 

[Over70irregs]

Who’s not filing?

Probably thousands of drivers. I was fearful at first but sucked it up as I got older.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Probably thousands of drivers. I was fearful at first but sucked it up as I got older.

Fearful of what?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Lets just say I was so cold that I bought another fax machine so I could send in 9.5 papers on Friday evening when I got home. Didn’t want stewards holding my papers for a few weeks.

How does that answer my question ?

 

[Thebrownblob]

How does that answer my question ?

Does he ever?

 

[Over70irregs]

How does that answer my question ?

I’m dodging the question. Think politician.

 

[Over70irregs]

Does he ever?

Yes

 

[Over70irregs]

Fearful of what?

Rides, excessive supervision, public posting of delivery metrics, pcm harassment, retaliation, route dispatch hysterics, side buster drivers, diad board message harassment, preload harassment

 

[Wally]

Only the middle of February and have dozens of people where I am getting ready to hit quadruple time or already hit it for going over 9.5 and no end in sight. And they don’t care. No intention of hiring anyone.

Maybe we should ask for 10x ?

It's business. The union knows overtime is part of the job so they negotiated the overtime bonus pay.

The mistake is in drivers thinking the 9.5 grievance is the solution to getting less overtime. It's not.

Another problem is calling it a grievance. Some do not file out of fear. It should be an automatic pay scale, go over a certain number of hours, collect that wage, no grievance needed.

 

[Thebrownblob]

It's business. The union knows overtime is part of the job so they negotiated the overtime bonus pay.

The mistake is in drivers thinking the 9.5 grievance is the solution to getting less overtime. It's not.

Another problem is calling it a grievance. Some do not file out of fear. It should be an automatic pay scale, go over a certain number of hours, collect that wage, no grievance needed.

I agree it should be automatic pay, but if you’re too much of a coward to file a grievance then you. Might as well let management come to your house drink your beer and have sex with your wife. Really get sick of hearing pusillanimous say this stuff. Man up/ woman up.

The current management we are under couldn’t find their s with a roadmap, and GPS much less put together a competent case to terminate someone.

 

[Wally]

I agree it should be automatic pay, but if you’re too much of a coward to file a grievance then you. Might as well let management come to your house drink your beer and have sex with your wife. Really get sick of hearing pusillanimous say this stuff. Man up/ woman up.

The current management we are under couldn’t find their s with a roadmap, and GPS much less put together a competent case to terminate someone.

Automatic premium pay takes away many of the tactics the company uses to have people not file. Don't know why, but many, even if on the 9-5 list, do not file.

We should stop calling it a grievance, call it "overtime bonus pay".

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

I agree it should be automatic pay, but if you’re too much of a coward to file a grievance then you. Might as well let management come to your house drink your beer and have sex with your wife. Really get sick of hearing pusillanimous say this stuff. Man up/ woman up.

The current management we are under couldn’t find their s with a roadmap, and GPS much less put together a competent case to terminate someone.

Or shift an Eaton 10 speed

 

[Thebrownblob]

Or shift an Eaton 10 speed

I don’t even think any of our tractors are manual anymore here.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

I don’t even think any of our tractors are manual anymore here.

I still see single axle Macks in Franklin Park

 

[KearsargeCoop]

It's business. The union knows overtime is part of the job so they negotiated the overtime bonus pay.

The mistake is in drivers thinking the 9.5 grievance is the solution to getting less overtime. It's not.

Another problem is calling it a grievance. Some do not file out of fear. It should be an automatic pay scale, go over a certain number of hours, collect that wage, no grievance needed.

Spot on.