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@textat3 is completely unreasonable with his $20 demands, but you two are selling us short here. "People don't realize what our benefits cost" is accurate, but many of us do. What also isn't being considered with that is the 20% - 30%+ increases being negotiated with companies across the nation who also pay a ton into HWP. $8.50ish is 20% over the life of the contract. $3.50 up front plus another $5 over 4 years is the absolute least we deserve, along with standard HWP increases like so many others are getting. I'm a reasonable guy, but if these less profitable companies can afford it, I'm getting mine. Especially after the way we were treated in 2020 and 2021. I see your point, but don't sell yourselves/us short.