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Thebrownblob

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Yes that you unhinged mentally ill people will harm gays because of what some stupid desert Jews believed over 2000 years ago.
Believe don’t believe, no one‘s hurting you. Except you This is an made up issue you’ve been throwing a hissy fit for two days now.
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tourists24

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If :censored2: is going really side ways praying is a waste of time and for pusillanimous. You’re wasting time you should be focusing on the real world, not magic non sense.
Yes and that is why fundamentalist religion is dying in America. Most people don’t believe in non sense and know their God’s place, within the gaps of human knowledge. That’s what y’all worship now that fundamentalist claims about god are being rebuked, god of the gaps, not the absolute word of a deity creator as laid out in the Bible.
You really are overthinking it. It does seem to bother you
 

vantexan

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Praying is something I see some motorcycle YouTube rider do. I instantly turn it off, what a pusillanimous. I have never had to say a prayer and I ride way faster on my crotch rockets than these guys with their boomer cruisers.
But enough about your sex life already.
 

floridays

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@floridays @BrownFlush @Fred's Myth
These are the fundamentalists here,
My grandfather was also one of these types.
There are other Christians who do not seek to love gays or treat them as equals though and a lot of agnostics will go along for the ride.

They don’t call for the execution of gays but view their Old Testament as context for Christianity and add it to the teachings of Christ to justify their hatred and convolute messages of love and acceptance of others. I’ve heard them say it even if they won’t admit to it when called out. They view all gays as mentally ill and not natural.

They are the worse of the worse when it comes to Christian thought.
You sir fall into one of two camps, either you are under the conviction of the Holy Spirit or have been given up to a reprobate mind.
That is strictly my opinion.

Jesus Christ was born for one reason, to die for sinners, to trade His sinless account for my sinful account. I've been clear, I am a sinner, I have trusted why God sent His Son to die for me, I accept His grace.

That said, don't put God's view of sinners in strictly an old testament context.
You delineated between the old and new testament, I offer you this from the new testament:

Romans 1:28-32

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them

I understand a long list of offenses are noted, without natural affection, seems to be what you are hung up on. That is new testament.

I have already noted a long list of offenses, I am guilty of all, except one, it doesn't make me better than you, I'm thankful to have been forgiven before I made it there.

That said, to you specifically, new testament:

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

The Apostle Paul was incorrect, of sinners I am chief.
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
You sir fall into one of two camps, either you are under the conviction of the Holy Spirit or have been given up to a reprobate mind.
That is strictly my opinion.

Jesus Christ was born for one reason, to die for sinners, to trade His sinless account for my sinful account. I've been clear, I am a sinner, I have trusted why God sent His Son to die for me, I accept His grace.

That said, don't put God's view of sinners in strictly an old testament context.
You delineated between the old and new testament, I offer you this from the new testament:

Romans 1:28-32

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them

I understand a long list of offenses are noted, without natural affection, seems to be what you are hung up on. That is new testament.

I have already noted a long list of offenses, I am guilty of all, except one, it doesn't make me better than you, I'm thankful to have been forgiven before I made it there.

That said, to you specifically, new testament:

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

The Apostle Paul was incorrect, of sinners I am chief.
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FromOffTheStreets

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Where did your god come from? Nothing?
We don't know where God came from, you don't know where the elements came from. We both take it by faith & when we both die we will find out who's faith was correct.

I've never heard a good enough argument from your side to change my mind & you have never heard an argument from my side to change yours.

My rule of thumb is; present Christ & my belief to a person once & then move on, but I try to be cool & respect everyone regardless of their beliefs. The way you treat someone has a bigger impact than how smart you are.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Where did your god come from? Nothing?
Where did YOU come from? You received your existence from your parents, as they did from their parents. If nothing existed except receivers of existence, where did the existence they received come from? In order that anything may exist, there must be a source, a being which simply HAS it. God does not have to receive existence, because He IS existence. God revealed Himself as the source of existence to Moses, stating "I am who am. Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: HE WHO IS hath sent me to you."
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
Where did YOU come from? You received your existence from your parents, as they did from their parents. If nothing existed except receivers of existence, where did the existence they received come from? In order that anything may exist, there must be a source, a being which simply HAS it. God does not have to receive existence, because He IS existence. God revealed Himself as the source of existence to Moses, stating "I am who am. Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: HE WHO IS hath sent me to you."
You bible humpers are sicker than I thought.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
The Bible appropriately and uniquely begins with these words, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Gen. 1:1). There is far more evidence to support the first fact stated in the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" than the hypotheses of organic evolution.
The Bible begins with God. It does not begin with mere change. It does not begin with matter. It does not begin with nothing. It begins with God.
However, it does not begin with the beginning of God, for God had no beginning. He is "from everlasting to everlasting" (Psa. 90:2). He is the eternal "I AM" (Exod. 3:14). So in "the beginning" God already was. Hence, "the beginning" of Genesis 1:1 is the beginning of the material universe, but before that "beginning" there was God. God is the first Cause that caused everything else. To acknowledge this truth, everything else falls into place. To deny it, nothing makes sense, including our very existence. That which creates, of necessity, must come before the creation.
The magnitude, scope and orderly arrangement of the universe testifies to a superior intellect. The precision which makes possible the accurate movements of the universe demands by reason that only intelligence can account for its origin and existence.
The very make-up of man is staggering.The Psalmist declared: "I will give thanks unto thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" (Psa. 139:14). The functions of the human being, DNA, the composite system of intelligence and a biological organism is sufficient within itself to reveal a most proficient designer. Only a superior personal creator, an intelligent being, can be the plausible explanation for the origin of life, mind and matter.

Yes, God exists.The evidences which unanimously and unmistakably argue the existence of God are so great that only a "fool" would say "in his heart, There is no God" (Psa. 14:1). An eternal being has no beginning or end like a physical being. God is a spirit. The carnal mind refuses to accept the evidence. Five seconds after you take your last breath, you'll be believing all of it.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
The Bible appropriately and uniquely begins with these words, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Gen. 1:1). There is far more evidence to support the first fact stated in the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" than the hypotheses of organic evolution.
The Bible begins with God. It does not begin with mere change. It does not begin with matter. It does not begin with nothing. It begins with God.
However, it does not begin with the beginning of God, for God had no beginning. He is "from everlasting to everlasting" (Psa. 90:2). He is the eternal "I AM" (Exod. 3:14). So in "the beginning" God already was. Hence, "the beginning" of Genesis 1:1 is the beginning of the material universe, but before that "beginning" there was God. God is the first Cause that caused everything else. To acknowledge this truth, everything else falls into place. To deny it, nothing makes sense, including our very existence. That which creates, of necessity, must come before the creation.
The magnitude, scope and orderly arrangement of the universe testifies to a superior intellect. The precision which makes possible the accurate movements of the universe demands by reason that only intelligence can account for its origin and existence.
The very make-up of man is staggering.The Psalmist declared: "I will give thanks unto thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" (Psa. 139:14). The functions of the human being, DNA, the composite system of intelligence and a biological organism is sufficient within itself to reveal a most proficient designer. Only a superior personal creator, an intelligent being, can be the plausible explanation for the origin of life, mind and matter.

Yes, God exists.The evidences which unanimously and unmistakably argue the existence of God are so great that only a "fool" would say "in his heart, There is no God" (Psa. 14:1). An eternal being has no beginning or end like a physical being. God is a spirit. The carnal mind refuses to accept the evidence. Five seconds after you take your last breath, you'll be believing all of it.
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By chance? Not a chance!
 
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