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Fred's Myth

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IMO The terms leftist and leftism are political terms not religious terms. I don’t believe I have ever heard of a leftist or leftism based institutional religion or church.
The word church is a poor translation of the word ekklesia since it implies a sacred building, or temple. A more accurate translation would be "assembly" because the term ekklesia was used to refer to a group of people who had been called out to a meeting. The New Testament Definition of a Church | Dwell Community Church.
 

Integrity

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The word church is a poor translation of the word ekklesia since it implies a sacred building, or temple. A more accurate translation would be "assembly" because the term ekklesia was used to refer to a group of people who had been called out to a meeting. The New Testament Definition of a Church | Dwell Community Church.
This does change my opinion, IMO the terms leftist and leftism are political terms not religious terms. I don’t believe I have ever heard of a leftist or leftism based institutional religion or institutional church.

You?
 

zubenelgenubi

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IMO The terms leftist and leftism are political terms not religious terms. I don’t believe I have ever heard of a leftist or leftism based institutional religion or church.

What difference does it make what type of terms leftism and leftist are? The leftist based institutional religion, at this point, is the State.
 

vantexan

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This does change my opinion, IMO the terms leftist and leftism are political terms not religious terms. I don’t believe I have ever heard of a leftist or leftism based institutional religion or institutional church.

You?
Certainly have heard of those with leftist views influencing the direction a church takes.
 

Integrity

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Certainly have heard of those with leftist views influencing the direction a church takes.
Yes, I have heard of some Institutional churches or religions that have memberships that are progressive and liberal in their views and could be considered to generally lean toward the extreme left of the political spectrum.

But IMO the terms leftist and leftism are political terms not religious terms.
 

vantexan

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Yes, I have heard of some Institutional churches or religions that have memberships that are progressive and liberal in their views and could be considered to generally lean toward the extreme left of the political spectrum.

But IMO the terms leftist and leftism are political terms not religious terms.
What he's referring to is those who want a strong central government that controls every aspect of our lives are essentially creating a state religion. They achieved that in the Soviet Union and many want that here.
 

Integrity

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What he's referring to is those who want a strong central government that controls every aspect of our lives are essentially creating a state religion. They achieved that in the Soviet Union and many want that here.
Doesn’t the US Constitution cover that issue?
 

zubenelgenubi

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Not in the US.

There I establishment of a religion would violate the US Constitution.

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zubenelgenubi

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Yes,

In my experience individuals in institutional churches and religions who lean to the far right of the political spectrum tend to try impose their religious beliefs and morality on the masses and are more prone to wanting to have federal government legislate their religious beliefs and morality.

While the leftist priesthood in the government actually impose their views through government action.
 

vantexan

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Doesn’t the US Constitution cover that issue?
You're thinking of an actual church. Those who want communism, socialism, whatever have essentially made that a religion. At least it has the earmarks of a religion. Doesn't mean you'll congregate in a building on Sunday and worship the state.
 

rickyb

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Would you be willing to describe what being very spiritual actually looks like in your life?
yea it means asking what is evil? so evil is power and control and treating people like they are numbers and not caring about the environment. so basically corporations and govt.

for me its also about making sure i treat people nicely and i am thinking about it. because if i dont think about it i could get out of control.

so i want to fight evil. i donate so much money that it hurts to organizations that are fighting power and control and pro democracy. our system is a power system and its bad for civilization. its more exciting to donate a lump sum like 5000 or whatever. i wear political clothes, got bumper stickers, go to protests. i protested the chinese government. ive also protested election of trump. i made youtube videos.

i encourage people to do whatever they can, make the best of their time (kill 2 birds with one stone), and have the faith that whatever you do matters.
 

Integrity

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You're thinking of an actual church.
I am just commenting on what is said, that’s all.
Those who want communism, socialism, whatever have essentially made that a religion.
Both communism and socialism are political theories not religious theories. IMO discussing as they are a religion or religious theories not fruitful or effective for that matter.

I am sure some with those political leanings probably belong to an institutional religion or church.
At least it has the earmarks of a religion. Doesn't mean you'll congregate in a building on Sunday and worship the state.
 

rickyb

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I am just commenting on what is said, that’s all.

Both communism and socialism are political theories not religious theories. IMO discussing as they are a religion or religious theories not fruitful or effective for that matter.

I am sure some with those political leanings probably belong to an institutional religion or church.
economics affects religion
 
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