religion

[rickyb]

I am against babies being murdered any day also.

I am deeply conflicted by the abortion issue. I am not in favor of it nor do I oppose it. If asked I do not recommend it as a means of solving a pregnancy when a pregnancy is a perceived problem, nor do I condemn anyone for making this decision.

I humbly have to leave that between the individuals and God Himself.

I cast no stone of judgment in this direction!

May God continue to have mercy on humanity!

god save us all

and i hope we save ourselves too

 

[Integrity]

Sort of a narrow view.

What if we had the same view on solving a disagreement or perceived problem with another human and aborting life?

I agree with you I cannot judge the eternal salvation of that individual. Only God can.

But is imperative and our duty that we judge their actions here in this life.

If that is how you view, it then it is a narrow view that I take, so be it.

I stand by my Father in Heaven and man with my view.

I disagree. I will not cast the first stone at anyone for any sin. That is between the sinner and God Himself.

I take the principle of “judge ye not” very seriously.

Similar to the principle of “Live and Let Live”.

If you feel it is imperative then by all means have at it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If that is how you view, it then it is a narrow view that I take, so be it.

I stand by my Father in Heaven and man with my view.

I disagree. I will not cast the first stone at anyone for any sin. That is between the sinner and God Himself.

I take the principle of “judge ye not” very seriously.

Similar to the principle of “Live and Let Live”.

If you feel it is imperative then by all means have at it.

We don’t judge their salvation, but we have to judge here on earth. Otherwise there will be chaos.. I think you misunderstand.

And then you say live and let live, but yet we’re not letting them live we are killing them. A general devaluation of life, which is a very unChristian Principal.

Which you’re suggesting is not judge not you’re suggesting ignore. Christians are not called to ignore.. We are called to stand up and speak out at the very least. and to be examples and pray for those who are making these damning choices.

 

[Thebrownblob]

god save us all

and i hope we save ourselves too

We can’t save ourselves, but thankfully there is a savior.

 

[Integrity]

We don’t judge their salvation, but we have to judge here on earth. Otherwise there will be chaos.. I think you misunderstand.

And then you say live and let live, but yet we’re not letting them live we are killing them. A general devaluation of life, which is a very unChristian Principal.

Which you’re suggesting is not judge not you’re suggesting ignore. Christians are not called to ignore.. We are called to stand up and speak out at the very least. and to be examples and pray for those who are making these damning choices.

I disagree. Only God can truly judge on earth and in heaven. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m not.

I gave my point of view, I don’t let anyone do anything. I devalue no one. I think you may misunderstand “ Live and Let Live”.

I ignore nothing. In all things I pray!!

You may be called to stand up and speak out, I am not so called. By all means if you believe that is what God has called you to then IMHO you would certainly be wise to obey Him in that way.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I disagree. Only God can truly judge on earth and in heaven. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m not.

I gave my point of view, I don’t let anyone do anything. I devalue no one. I think you may misunderstand “ Live and Let Live”.

I ignore nothing. In all things I pray!!

You may be called to stand up and speak out, I am not so called. By all means if you believe that is what God has called you to then IMHO you would certainly be wise to obey Him in that way.

God sanctions judgment here on earth. You can be forgiven in the afterlife and still pay a penalty in this life.

What you’re suggesting is honestly nonsense, no one would be held accountable for anything and probably never receive salvation because they never realized they did anything wrong, or would even need to be saved and have salvation.

Christianity is a very strong justice influence, my friend. Your milk toast attitude is concerning.

John 7:24 states: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment

 

[Integrity]

We can’t save ourselves, but thankfully there is a savior.

Jesus!!!

 

[Integrity]

God sanctions judgment here on earth. You can be forgiven in the afterlife and still pay a penalty in this life.

What you’re suggesting is honestly nonsense, no one would be held accountable for anything and probably never receive salvation because they never realized they did anything wrong, or would even need to be saved and have salvation.

Christianity is a very strong justice influence, my friend. Your milk toast attitude is concerning.

No doubt sin causes pain, suffering, and brings temporal wrath to believer’s in Christ and nonbelievers as well.

Your second paragraph doesn’t make sense to me, I guess we are even.

Patience, tolerance, kindliness , and love are the principles that I am called to practice. I believe in social justice but am not called into active participation in it very much.

I cannot control your view of my points of view.

I respect your willingness and the manner in which you speak out when you believe differently.

 

[BrownFlush]

Christ is my defense, I have no other.

No he’s not. His words and teachings are not in you.

 

[tourists24]

No doubt sin causes pain, suffering, and brings temporal wrath to believer’s in Christ and nonbelievers as well.

Your second paragraph doesn’t make sense to me, I guess we are even.

Patience, tolerance, kindliness , and love are the principles that I am called to practice. I believe in social justice but am not called into active participation in it very much.

I cannot control your view of my points of view.

I respect your willingness and the manner in which you speak out when you believe differently.

what do you mean by "social justice"? Interested in what you mean by it since the term can be bastardized in political circles

 

[BrownFlush]

I can not control your opinion of me, my brethren.

Your comments are what controls anyone’s opinion. You certainly have control. … Wait… I forgot for a minute. You’re not accountable or responsible. It’s my pride that’s the problem..

Note: Brethren is plural. Brother is the singular.

 

[Integrity]

No he’s not. His words and teachings are not in you.

Very humble of you to say.
Love you brethren.

 

[Integrity]

what do you mean by "social justice"? Interested in what you mean by it since the term can be bastardized in political circles

What does it mean to you?

 

[BrownFlush]

Very humble of you to say.
Love you brethren.

Reality is arrogance to the ignorant.

 

[BrownFlush]

What does it mean to you?

Circle time!!!
You never answer a question. You turn and ask. Every time.

 

[Integrity]

Your comments are what controls anyone’s opinion. You certainly have control. … Wait… I forgot for a minute. You’re not accountable or responsible. It’s my pride that’s the problem..

Note: Brethren is plural. Brother is the singular.

Yes, I do believe it is in large part the source of your troubles with your faith.

I say this in love my brother!

 

[Integrity]

Reality is arrogance to the ignorant.

God is actually real. Not just read in a book.

 

[Integrity]

Circle time!!!
You never answer a question. You turn and ask. Every time.

I do. Sometimes.

 

[tourists24]

What does it mean to you?

I'm not sure what I think it means biblically/from a Christian point of view. I do know the way it is purported politically is not what I think is the way I feel called to be. My view of social justice may be simply to treat everyone the same no matter where they fall on a social spectrum. Of course that is when it comes to apples to apples comparisons occurring in different scenarios. You always carry love for each person, but no one gets free passes from consequence for their actions simply for a tougher card dealt in life.

What about you? What were you meaning in your post?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I'm not sure what I think it means biblically/from a Christian point of view. I do know the way it is purported politically is not what I think is the way I feel called to be. My view of social justice may be simply to treat everyone the same no matter where they fall on a social spectrum. Of course that is when it comes to apples to apples comparisons occurring in different scenarios. You always carry love for each person, but no one gets free passes from consequence for their actions simply for a tougher card dealt in life.

What about you? What were you meaning in your post?

Social justice is a silly construct. Justice can only be really given individually. You cannot blame a whole group for anything, nor can you absolve a whole group of anything.

It’s just like salvation. It’s individual.