religion

[vantexan]

In the Bible individuals have written down what they claim Jesus said, yes.

No.

No.

We all don’t receive it but it is available to all who believe. You don’t so I believe you won’t, which is pretty obvious.

God gives spiritual gifts, then and now.

Keep worshiping and idolizing religious writings, glad it works for you.

l will pray for your unbelief of the presence and activity of the Holy Spirit in the body and life my brethren.

So you have the power to heal? Can you get on a plane and fly to China and tell them about Jesus in Mandarin? The Apostles had miraculous powers. Why don't you? They were able to impart some of these gifts to others, such as the ability to speak to anyone in their own language. The Apostle Paul even chastised some for speaking in an unknown language at their worship service instead of the language the locals spoke. Told them it didn't do anyone any good if they didn't know what was being said.

Not a matter of idolizing the Scriptures. They were given to us as our guide. What you're doing is elevating yourself to be the equivalent of the Apostles. You want people to listen to you, not them. You aren't what the Apostles were. You can't do what they did. You are an ordinary man. God made them more than ordinary on the Day of Pentecost, A.D. 33

 

[Integrity]

What point? That you lied?

No.

 

[Integrity]

When did he get the full measure of the HS?

Only God can know this.

 

[Integrity]

So you have the power to heal? Can you get on a plane and fly to China and tell them about Jesus in Mandarin? The Apostles had miraculous powers. Why don't you? They were able to impart some of these gifts to others, such as the ability to speak to anyone in their own language. The Apostle Paul even chastised some for speaking in an unknown language at their worship service instead of the language the locals spoke. Told them it didn't do anyone any good if they didn't know what was being said.

Not a matter of idolizing the Scriptures. They were given to us as our guide. What you're doing is elevating yourself to be the equivalent of the Apostles. You want people to listen to you, not them. You aren't what the Apostles were. You can't do what they did. You are an ordinary man. God made them more than ordinary on the Day of Pentecost, A.D. 33

Maybe.
No.
Maybe I do maybe I don’t.
You do worship and idolize religious texts.
The Spirit of Pentecost is available to all who believe.

 

[vantexan]

Maybe.
No.
Maybe I do maybe I don’t.
You do worship and idolize religious texts.
The Spirit of Pentecost is available to all who believe.

Did you have flames alight on your head the way the Apostles did on the Day of Pentecost?

And you don't. If you claim you do you're a charlatan.

 

[Integrity]

Did you have flames alight on your head the way the Apostles did on the Day of Pentecost?

And you don't. If you claim you do you're a charlatan.

Ye of unbelief.

for you my brethren.

 

[vantexan]

Ye of unbelief.

for you my brethren.

I asked a simple question. Did the Holy Spirit baptize you with fire like he did the Apostles?

 

[Integrity]

I asked a simple question. Did the Holy Spirit baptize you with fire like he did the Apostles?

Yes.It is actually Jesus who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.

 

[vantexan]

Yes.It is actually Jesus who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.

You received the baptism of the Holy Spirit with a tongue of fire above your head(Acts 2)? Did you proceed to heal the sick, speak in other languages, perform other miracles?

 

[Integrity]

You received the baptism of the Holy Spirit with a tongue of fire above your head(Acts 2)? Did you proceed to heal the sick, speak in other languages, perform other miracles?

What‘s it to you?

 

[vantexan]

What‘s it to you?

You're the one arguing the Apostles were just ordinary men. You're the one downplaying their teachings. You're the one accusing me of idolizing the Bible. You're the one who rejects parts of the Bible and says God speaks directly to you. That you've received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit just like the Apostles did. But you can't perform their miracles. Seems to me you're just doing what you want to do and are claiming God told you to do it that way. You're trying to lead people from the Bible.

 

[Integrity]

You're the one arguing the Apostles were just ordinary men. You're the one downplaying their teachings. You're the one accusing me of idolizing the Bible. You're the one who rejects parts of the Bible and says God speaks directly to you. That you've received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit just like the Apostles did. But you can't perform their miracles. Seems to me you're just doing what you want to do and are claiming God told you to do it that way. You're trying to lead people from the Bible.

Yes. They were.
No. Something can be learned from all writing.
Yes. You do seem worship and idolize the Bible.
No. Failing to accept is not equivalent to rejecting.
Yes. I believe God speaks to every one of his creation some just don’t hear his voice, some probably hear his voice and deny it is his due to their unbelief. Unfortunately, some believe he only speaks through religion.
Yes. Jesus did baptize me in the Holy Spirit. What’s it to you?
Who says I can’t or haven’t performed miracles? God only knows not you.
No. I only seek to do with my father in heaven wants me to I hope it’s the same for you.
No, I love the Bible. I find it very useful. I just don’t worship and idolize it like some.

 

[vantexan]

Yes. They were.
No. Something can be learned from all writing.
Yes. You do seem worship and idolize the Bible.
No. Failing to accept is not equivalent to rejecting.
Yes. I believe God speaks to every one of his creation some just don’t hear his voice, some probably hear his voice and deny it is his due to their unbelief. Unfortunately, some believe he only speaks through religion.
Yes. Jesus did baptize me in the Holy Spirit. What’s it to you?
Who says I can’t or haven’t performed miracles? God only knows not you.
No. I only seek to do with my father in heaven wants me to I hope it’s the same for you.
No, I love the Bible. I find it very useful. I just don’t worship and idolize it like some.

You reject parts of it. You refuse to recognize the authority given the Apostles. And you aren't able to perform the miracles they could. You're a false prophet.

 

[Integrity]

You reject parts of it. You refuse to recognize the authority given the Apostles. And you aren't able to perform the miracles they could. You're a false prophet.

No. Not accepting is not equivalent to rejecting.

I recognize their authority that is equivalent to mine and to yours as well.

You don’t know miracles I can perform or not perform only God.

I do not believe I have the spiritual gift of prophecy therefore I am not prophet, false or any other kind.

 

[vantexan]

No. Not accepting is not equivalent to rejecting.

I recognize their authority that is equivalent to mine and to yours as well.

You don’t know miracles I can perform or not perform only God.

I do not believe I have the spiritual gift of prophecy therefore I am not prophet, false or any other kind.

If you were able to perform miracles you would be doing so to the glory of God.

If you're not accepting, you are then rejecting it. Seriously? What gives you the right?

You need to discuss this with Jesus. Why did he choose his Apostles and imbue them with spiritual gifts, which the rest of us don't have, and charged them with establishing congregations and growing the Church? Tell him you're their equivalent. I'm sure he'll set you straight.

 

[Integrity]

If you were able to perform miracles you would be doing so to the glory of God.

If you're not accepting, you are then rejecting it. Seriously? What gives you the right?

You need to discuss this with Jesus. Why did he choose his Apostles and imbue them with spiritual gifts, which the rest of us don't have, and charged them with establishing congregations and growing the Church? Tell him you're their equivalent. I'm sure he'll set you straight.

That I am.

Not accepting is not equivalent to rejecting no more than not agreeing is equivalent to disagreeing. You seem to have all or nothing thinking. Were you ever diagnosed with a cognitive distortion or OCD.

We all have the same purpose as the apostles.

 

[vantexan]

That I am.

Not accepting is not equivalent to rejecting no more than not agreeing is equivalent to disagreeing. You seem to have all or nothing thinking. Were you ever diagnosed with a cognitive distortion or OCD.

We all have the same purpose as the apostles.

Nope, you aren't. And you reject parts of the Bible. And your justification in the past for doing so is/was that the writers were just men. YOU get direct guidance from God, but apparently not them if you disagree with it.

 

[Integrity]

Nope, you aren't. And you reject parts of the Bible. And your justification in the past for doing so is/was that the writers were just men. YOU get direct guidance from God, but apparently not them if you disagree with it.

Whatever.

 

[BrownFlush]

Thank You for proving my point. Kind of like proof texts.

What point? That you lied?

I have never once said that I’ve heard an audible voice from God.

God does not literally talk to anyone today.

You are sadly mistaken. The Holy Spirit of God tells me that if you don’t have faith and believe that He is speaking to you, you won’t even recognize it when He does Maybe that is why to don’t recognize his voice.

 

[BrownFlush]

Only God can know this.

It was at his baptism.
Men received differing measures of the Spirit in the first century. Jesus received the Spirit without measure (John 3:34-35). The Holy Spirit rested upon Him, empowering Him to preach the good news of salvation and perform miracles to reveal who he was and His Deity.