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rickyb

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That is because you have been radicalized by politics not by Jesus. Or his teachings.
chomsky describes it for the first 300 years as radical. makes sense the state would hate that.

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tourists24

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hes not but hes very smart and honest.

religion doesnt make any sense to me if its not political bc then the world just goes to hell, and it seems political.
This right here is why (imo) that you won't let yourself be led to follow Christ. The "world" itself is going to hell. There is a way out of it and it's not doing it in a secular manner. You can go to heaven by accepting the gift of salvation. You can help others by helping them do the same thing. You can then pray to Christ to lead you on a path that can help others His way and that gives Him the glory.
 

rickyb

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This right here is why (imo) that you won't let yourself be led to follow Christ. The "world" itself is going to hell. There is a way out of it and it's not doing it in a secular manner. You can go to heaven by accepting the gift of salvation. You can help others by helping them do the same thing. You can then pray to Christ to lead you on a path that can help others His way and that gives Him the glory.
i think heaven and hell are here and now, not in another life. i hope its in another life too.

in star wars episode 3 the director very clearly says darth vader goes to hell in that episode when hes alive.
 

rickyb

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This is not biblical so you have been taught this somewhere else. Why do think this is the truth?
some one else who supports this belief was george lucas' mentor joseph campbell who read all the religions and stories.

i can post wat james cone, chris hedges, and cornel west said too, plus barber on hell. it doesnt really make sense to me as a conservative or radical to do nothing politically / economically to make the world more heavenly while youre alive.
 

tourists24

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common sense tells me its here and now plus the other sources i mentioned. it makes less sense if its after we die.
that's all just secularist view. You reject the gift of Christ and replacing it with what your want to see. It does make more sense as to why you view things the way you do though
 

rickyb

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that's all just secularist view. You reject the gift of Christ and replacing it with what your want to see. It does make more sense as to why you view things the way you do though
i believe it was radical pacifist. if it wasnt, i wouldnt be quoting it or i would be criticizing it for not being. im not necessarily a pacifist.

i think the rich have shaped it into something else to protect themselves. mainstream religion has typically sided with the dominant economic system of its time.
 

tourists24

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i believe it was radical pacifist. if it wasnt, i wouldnt be quoting it or i would be criticizing it for not being. im not necessarily a pacifist.

i think the rich have shaped it into something else to protect themselves. mainstream religion has typically sided with the dominant economic system of its time.
Mainstream religion can be perverted into whatever people want it to represent. You follow a path of humanism and secularism yet for some reason want to be considered religious
 

rickyb

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Mainstream religion can be perverted into whatever people want it to represent. You follow a path of humanism and secularism yet for some reason want to be considered religious
religion can be perverted and is perverted.

i like parts of religion. in matrix revolutions when neo dies a cross of light comes through him. and i am a spiritual man.

the force is with me right now. my last wish is to move to europe which is set to happen next year. after that i will try and do a meaningful career to bring heaven on earth but if i am just a bus driver for my life im okay with that.
 

tourists24

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i dont think theres anything wrong with debating the way religion is practiced. its worthwhile.
As long as you are honest and up front about what you represent then I'm ok with that. You are not a Christian so don't try and represent what a Christian should be and do. Just do you. You and I have always gotten along and it's ok to be different. The only time I get irritated is when you try to misrepresent Christianity. Just be rickyb
 

rickyb

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As long as you are honest and up front about what you represent then I'm ok with that. You are not a Christian so don't try and represent what a Christian should be and do. Just do you. You and I have always gotten along and it's ok to be different. The only time I get irritated is when you try to misrepresent Christianity. Just be rickyb
I dont misrepresent it. I used to pray. Now i dont.
 
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