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rickyb

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jesus was a pacifist.

you might ask yourself how you ended up cheering war as a self proclaimed christian
 

vantexan

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jesus was a pacifist.

you might ask yourself how you ended up cheering war as a self proclaimed christian
The Americans and Israelis kept potentially millions of people from being killed in the future. Not only our populations but Iranians too. You would have had the Iranians left alone to eventually have the means to slaughter millions. So I guess you aren't a pacifist after all. You just want the people you support to come out on top. Trump's way: kill a relative handful now to prevent millions dead in the future. Your way: destroy Israel, they deserve it. I'm going to go with Trump on this one.
 

vantexan

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Jesus clearly spoke against and challenged the established religion and religious leaders of His time.
That has nothing to do with him being an insurrectionist to Rome. Furthermore Jesus was a Jew and observed all that was required of him as a Jew. He certainly criticized the hypocrisy of Jewish leaders but he did not speak against Judaism.
 

rickyb

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That has nothing to do with him being an insurrectionist to Rome. Furthermore Jesus was a Jew and observed all that was required of him as a Jew. He certainly criticized the hypocrisy of Jewish leaders but he did not speak against Judaism.
the govt didnt like him for the same reasons it didnt like mlk jr when he talked about justice, peace, and love.
 

rickyb

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The Americans and Israelis kept potentially millions of people from being killed in the future. Not only our populations but Iranians too. You would have had the Iranians left alone to eventually have the means to slaughter millions. So I guess you aren't a pacifist after all. You just want the people you support to come out on top. Trump's way: kill a relative handful now to prevent millions dead in the future. Your way: destroy Israel, they deserve it. I'm going to go with Trump on this one.
killed from what?

your own intelligence said theres no nukes lol

israel killed hte hamas negotiators. israel bombed iran during the iranian negotiations. are you noticing a trend?

but youre right - war is peace.
 

vantexan

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killed from what?

your own intelligence said theres no nukes lol

israel killed hte hamas negotiators. israel bombed iran during the iranian negotiations. are you noticing a trend?

but youre right - war is peace.
They were close to building nukes. That's all that matters. You would have left them alone to continue building bombs and then when one hit Tel Aviv you would've been cheering. You're no pacifist.
 

tourists24

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Jesus clearly spoke against and challenged the established religion and religious leaders of His time.
He challenged a lot of things, but the claim that He was sent to earth as a resurrectionist against Rome is not true. I'm just looking for some biblical passages for the truth to that claim.
 

rickyb

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They were close to building nukes. That's all that matters. You would have left them alone to continue building bombs and then when one hit Tel Aviv you would've been cheering. You're no pacifist.
israel repeatedly has options for diplomacy but they choose war again and again because they want hegemony and supremacy. israel attacked iran in the middle of negotiations. its iraq war 2.0 based on lies.

 

vantexan

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He challenged a lot of things, but the claim that He was sent to earth as a resurrectionist against Rome is not true. I'm just looking for some biblical passages for the truth to that claim.
Jesus said if a man compels you to walk with him one mile then walk with him two. What's that about? Rome had a law throughout the empire. A Roman soldier could point to any man and that man was required to stop what he was doing and take the soldier's pack and carry it a mile. The Jews, who believed they were above this and it made them angry, were being told by Jesus to not only submit to the Romans' authority but to do it cheerfully. He was definitely not an insurrectionist.
 

vantexan

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israel repeatedly has options for diplomacy but they choose war again and again because they want hegemony and supremacy. israel attacked iran in the middle of negotiations. its iraq war 2.0 based on lies.

Absolutely false. Trump gave Iran 60 days to negotiate a deal. They refused. Israel attacked on the 61st day.
 

rickyb

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They were going off the information supplied by the U.N. If they didn't attack then Iran would have nukes. You can whine all you want but Iran has been effectively neutralized.
IEAE said there was no nukes too.

iran has not been neutralized, we dont know where this war will go. i think iran will attack americans in the region.
 
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