Retiring more aircraft

[yadig]

UPS, a smaller airline, has more empty space on aircrafts than a much bigger Express airline that’s currently dumping as much of its freight onto Ground as it possibly can? If UPS can turn a profit with this contract by filling their voids with postal, so could FedEx. Especially with the new Fedex obviously heading towards more voids on planes anyway. They didn’t want to fly the freight. Period. Any explanation for why UPS took the deal would’ve made sense for FedEx too. Because we’re transitioning to the exact same business model as them.

It’s very simple and even dano knows, UPS is better managed!

 

[Thebrownblob]

It’s very simple and even dano knows, UPS is better managed!

Don’t worry, we’re doing everything possible to correct that!

 

[59 Dano]

UPS, a smaller airline, has more empty space on aircrafts than a much bigger Express airline that’s currently dumping as much of its freight onto Ground as it possibly can? If UPS can turn a profit with this contract by filling their voids with postal, so could FedEx.

You're saying that FedEx should us USPS volume to fill the empty space on the flights that are already flying for the purpose of moving USPS volume. My God.

 

[59 Dano]

I understood that FedEx was flying Postal freight in idle airplanes, not so much in Express hauling flights.

You are correct.

If UPS is filling their overnight under utilized capacity, that is a fundamentally different process.

UPS is putting most of the freight on their existing daytime flights.

 

[Aquaman]

You are correct.

UPS is putting most of the freight on their existing daytime flights.

And why can’t we put the freight on OUR existing daytime flights? If UPS has been flying daytime flights with enough empty space to fly the whole contract, how are they more profitable than us? And why aren’t we going to have more space on our daytime flights with the shrinking of Express? It doesn’t make any sense dude. If UPS doesn’t need postal specific flights, why did we. And why would we still need them with the ongoing merge?

 

[zeev]

June 27.big insider selling no planes will be needed.

 

[Fred's Myth]

And why can’t we put the freight on OUR existing daytime flights? If UPS has been flying daytime flights with enough empty space to fly the whole contract, how are they more profitable than us? And why aren’t we going to have more space on our daytime flights with the shrinking of Express? It doesn’t make any sense dude. If UPS doesn’t need postal specific flights, why did we. And why would we still need them with the ongoing merge?

Sounds like what you don’t know exceeds what you do.

 

[Aquaman]

Sounds like what you don’t know exceeds what you do.

I’m just questioning the logic of “UPS is better set up for the contract”. Especially when we’re transitioning to their same operation model. No freight carrier in the world is better set up to fly postal freight than FedEx Express.

 

[59 Dano]

And why can’t we put the freight on OUR existing daytime flights?

THE DAYTIME FLIGHTS WE WERE USING FOR POSTAL VOLUME WERE FLIGHTS CREATED FOR THE POSTAL VOLUME.

All this time, all this going back and forth, and you didn't know that?????? My goodness, you're DAFT.

 

[Aquaman]

THE DAYTIME FLIGHTS WE WERE USING FOR POSTAL VOLUME WERE FLIGHTS CREATED FOR THE POSTAL VOLUME.

All this time, all this going back and forth, and you didn't know that?????? My goodness, you're DAFT.

Okay. Put the freight on already existing flights. Are you suggesting UPS can do that and we can’t?

 

[yadig]

Okay. Put the freight on already existing flights. Are you suggesting UPS can do that and we can’t?

He’s never gonna admit that.

 

[Aquaman]

He’s never gonna admit that.

He keeps laughing at me like I didn’t know we were flying extra postal flights. But never tries to explain why UPS with a smaller airline, can handle the whole contract without having to do what FedEx did. How they can fly the whole contract by filling existing voids on current flights. Something we for some reason can’t do. Even with lower postal volume & moving more express freight to ground. We should have more voids, on more aircraft than UPS. Yet they can somehow profit enough to justify their cost and we can’t.

 

[yadig]

He keeps laughing at me like I didn’t know we were flying extra postal flights. But never tries to explain why UPS with a smaller airline, can handle the whole contract without having to do what FedEx did. How they can fly the whole contract by filling existing voids on current flights. Something we for some reason can’t do. Even with lower postal volume & moving more express freight to ground. We should have more voids, on more aircraft than UPS. Yet they can somehow profit enough to justify their cost and we can’t.

UPS will truck as much of the postal as possible and make commitments. They will only fly what they have to. FedEx was doing the opposite and it comes back to mismanagement. Dano will never admit that he is part of the problem.

 

[59 Dano]

Okay. Put the freight on already existing flights. Are you suggesting UPS can do that and we can’t?

He’s never gonna admit that.

He keeps laughing at me like I didn’t know we were flying extra postal flights. But never tries to explain why UPS with a smaller airline, can handle the whole contract without having to do what FedEx did. How they can fly the whole contract by filling existing voids on current flights. Something we for some reason can’t do. Even with lower postal volume & moving more express freight to ground. We should have more voids, on more aircraft than UPS. Yet they can somehow profit enough to justify their cost and we can’t.

No one in the company has been able to find a way to make this profitable enough to fool with, even after months of going through scenario after scenario, option after option, poring through all the numbers, etc. in an attempt to find a justification to keep the freight. You guys can't do it either.

You guys, the rest of the company, and I have all been unable to make a case, supported by data and with full documentation, that justifies keeping the freight. Since we all agree on that, what the hell are you two arguing about?

 

[zeev]

500 million profit on USPS in a year according to the video I posted

 

[Aquaman]

No one in the company has been able to find a way to make this profitable enough to fool with, even after months of going through scenario after scenario, option after option, poring through all the numbers, etc. in an attempt to find a justification to keep the freight.

And I’m saying that’s a problem. A massive problem. Because our biggest competitor just took our biggest customer. The only reason top brass hasn’t been fired for losing that contract, is because they didn’t want it anymore.

 

[MAKAVELI]

And I’m saying that’s a problem. A massive problem. Because our biggest competitor just took our biggest customer. The only reason top brass hasn’t been fired for losing that contract, is because they didn’t want it anymore.

And the reason for not wanting it anymore is because they will do whatever is told them by DE Shaw and McKinsey. Dano will try to laugh it off but he knows it's true. He'll never say anything bad about them because they hold his little balls in their hands.

 

[bacha29]

And the reason for not wanting it anymore is because they will do whatever is told them by DE Shaw and McKinsey. Dano will try to laugh it off but he knows it's true. He'll never say anything bad about them because they hold his little balls in their hands.

Vanguard and Blackrock are actually the two largest institutional shareholders with Dodge and Cox not far behind. No question FDX is well on it's way to complete it's massive cost cutting and downsizing campaign. All that's left to do now is to wait to see what's left in the way of a company and by the looks of things....not much and it might not even be enough for major account shippers to even bother with.

 

[Aquaman]

And the reason for not wanting it anymore is because they will do whatever is told them by DE Shaw and McKinsey. Dano will try to laugh it off but he knows it's true. He'll never say anything bad about them because they hold his little balls in their hands.

I just think it says A LOT about the shape of this company that they couldn’t make the contract make sense. We have the space to fly the postal on existing flights. If UPS doesn’t need an entire separate postal operation, neither do we. Not in the “new” FedEx anyway. But these geniuses were probably trying to solve a future problem with data from the old FedEx.

 

[yadig]

I just think it says A LOT about the shape of this company that they couldn’t make the contract make sense. We have the space to fly the postal on existing flights. If UPS doesn’t need an entire separate postal operation, neither do we. Not in the “new” FedEx anyway. But these geniuses were probably trying to solve a future problem with data from the old FedEx.

Dano worked tirelessly for weeks crunching the numbers and couldn’t come up with a profitable contract. UPS made it work and beat Fedex out on the contract. It’s really that simple, accounts come and go. I just wonder when cardinal will be the next shoe to fall, we’re screwing it up on a weekly basis.