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Matty_lawn
Poopin' on the clock
BigUnionGuy
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Turdferguson
Just a turd
I was disappointed. I didn't hear FACT one time. Can only give 2 ☆because of this omission
Faceplanted
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I got a disagree.... like I said all the rtw fear mongering is just that. People will join the union this day in age where corporations try to screw us every day
Part timers don't join and why would they. Pay them poverty wages and 10-15 bucks a week is a huge amount. Maybe if the union looked out for them they would pay. We screwed them over the past 3 contracts and this is exactly what we get. No part time union participation in rtw states
Part timers don't join and why would they. Pay them poverty wages and 10-15 bucks a week is a huge amount. Maybe if the union looked out for them they would pay. We screwed them over the past 3 contracts and this is exactly what we get. No part time union participation in rtw states
hyena
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Check your inbox.
You have to know his real name.
-Bug-
I'm gonna go watch the 911 one again so I can laugh at how stupid he is. They're good for laughs, that's about it. #wacko. #shortbus. # Loser.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
We can all laugh at @anHOURover.
There is a degree of stupidity, ridiculous thoughts, and outright nonsense.
When it comes down to it;
He pays dues, and is entitled to representation.
Lets' hope he doesn't "wear out his welcome card" in discharge situations.
Just say'n....
-Bug-
542thruNthru
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This is untrue logic.
They don't vote in large numbers so who screws whom?
They need the money but fail to help themselves.
Matty_lawn
Poopin' on the clock
Yeah what a huge dork this dude is 
. Next time this dude is yapping his gums just take a good look at him and laugh.
. Next time this dude is yapping his gums just take a good look at him and laugh.In this age? When in the history of corporations did they not screw with employees?
RTW is solely structured to silence workers voices and weaken bargaining power. Anyone not understanding this must have been 'faceplanted' repeatedly as a child.
The guy is a rebel in search of a cause. It is a clear manifestation of mental illness, and he gets all the attention he craves on these threads.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
As "horse traders", these guys are branded and have handcuffed themselves from being affective in any other aspect of the job, and I think it's a huge disservice to those who report for work daily and do the job as prescribed.
Getting discharges reduced or thrown out is certainly an important task, but it must be done within the confines of the case, not settled via quid pro quo.
Sometimes these employees are guilty, just as the Company is often guilty in filed grievances.
It is simply unrealistic to think we can save them all.
~Bbbl~™
Faceplanted
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They used to vote in large numbers. Ups and the union both systemically pooped on part timers. If you started at ups now you would not join at part time.
When we throw them down the river for the past 20 years, don't expect them to think that they can change anything.
If we looked out for our "brothers"they wouldn't make minimum wage or have to wait 1 year for insurance.
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BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Some agents and Locals, get fixated on trying to appease the Labor Dept.
thinking it will reduce exposure to financial liability, if they lose.
Not knowing everyones motivation;
"Some" look at it, as a way of securing votes for the next election.
The only problem with that train of thought, is you will always have
more grievances than discharge cases. Go figure.
Absolutely.... 100%.
All cases should be based on their merit.
You seek alternatives to discharge.
But, not at the expense of other members.
-Bug-
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WHO the heck is "we"?
You use that term like we're all involved in this and that's bullcrap.
The part-timers are not without recourse. They could crush a CBA if they all voted for their own issues. You act like they're defenseless and not allowed to vote and I say that's bullcrap too and a cop out.
They are a victim of their own choosing because they don't vote in large numbers except for Local 89 and we see what that got them.
Before you blame the rest of us for part-timers not voting take a look at the percentages in your own local and tell me that the part-timers are being coached not to vote for their own issues.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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We will be holding contract proposal meetings throughout our local in September. I am certain that I will be able to count the number of PTers in attendance without having to take off my socks and shoes.
