Termination

[burrheadd]

UPS is crooked.

No Sh. It

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

OK, you’re very brave. I would never drive a school bus for kids nowadays.

The school bus company on my route asked me when I retire if I'd be interested in driving for me


Eff No

 

[Thebrownblob]

The school bus company on my route asked me when I retire if I'd be interested in driving for me


Eff No

Lots of poor parenting makes kids animals

 

[Mrs.BrownCoat]

Business agents don’t investigate on sight. They are not detectives. The company would’ve supplied any evidence at the business agents request.

If it was only hearsay, no panel would uphold that.

There’s more to the story. Maybe an untimely grievance?

Grievance filed immediately after termination letter received. Hearing 13 days after. Request for hearing at a higher level 7 days after decision made at hearing. Hearing panel was 3 people. BA and steward said accuser would not allow an investigation. Accuser a very large business so likely big $ for UPS. Employer delivering there for YEARS.
I know it makes everyone feels more safe to ignore that this was likely a blatant disregard of the rules set forth by both UPS and the union by saying there was more. And maybe there was but maybe not. Just watch your backs. Anything can be seen as an egregious cardinal offense and anyone can be fired based off of hearsay and past offenses that exceed the time limit UPS has set forth. Employees time is done and will move forward BUT fair warning to all of you. Thanks for your help and insight all. Stay safe out there.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Grievance filed immediately after termination letter received. Hearing 13 days after. Request for hearing at a higher level 7 days after decision made at hearing. Hearing panel was 3 people. BA and steward said accuser would not allow an investigation. Accuser a very large business so likely big $ for UPS. Employer delivering there for YEARS.
I know it makes everyone feels more safe to ignore that this was likely a blatant disregard of the rules set forth by both UPS and the union by saying there was more. And maybe there was but maybe not. Just watch your backs. Anything can be seen as an egregious cardinal offense and anyone can be fired based off of hearsay and past offenses that exceed the time limit UPS has set forth. Employees time is done and will move forward BUT fair warning to all of you. Thanks for your help and insight all. Stay safe out there.

Sure would be hard to deadlock with a panel of three.

 

[burrheadd]

Grievance filed immediately after termination letter received. Hearing 13 days after. Request for hearing at a higher level 7 days after decision made at hearing. Hearing panel was 3 people. BA and steward said accuser would not allow an investigation. Accuser a very large business so likely big $ for UPS. Employer delivering there for YEARS.
I know it makes everyone feels more safe to ignore that this was likely a blatant disregard of the rules set forth by both UPS and the union by saying there was more. And maybe there was but maybe not. Just watch your backs. Anything can be seen as an egregious cardinal offense and anyone can be fired based off of hearsay and past offenses that exceed the time limit UPS has set forth. Employees time is done and will move forward BUT fair warning to all of you. Thanks for your help and insight all. Stay safe out there.

I hope YOU learned a lesson

 

[RTS313]

i can give you career advice and country advice

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Grievance filed immediately after termination letter received. Hearing 13 days after. Request for hearing at a higher level 7 days after decision made at hearing. Hearing panel was 3 people. BA and steward said accuser would not allow an investigation. Accuser a very large business so likely big $ for UPS. Employer delivering there for YEARS.
I know it makes everyone feels more safe to ignore that this was likely a blatant disregard of the rules set forth by both UPS and the union by saying there was more. And maybe there was but maybe not. Just watch your backs. Anything can be seen as an egregious cardinal offense and anyone can be fired based off of hearsay and past offenses that exceed the time limit UPS has set forth. Employees time is done and will move forward BUT fair warning to all of you. Thanks for your help and insight all. Stay safe out there.

I would love to hear the rest of this story

 

[rickyb]

Grievance filed immediately after termination letter received. Hearing 13 days after. Request for hearing at a higher level 7 days after decision made at hearing. Hearing panel was 3 people. BA and steward said accuser would not allow an investigation. Accuser a very large business so likely big $ for UPS. Employer delivering there for YEARS.
I know it makes everyone feels more safe to ignore that this was likely a blatant disregard of the rules set forth by both UPS and the union by saying there was more. And maybe there was but maybe not. Just watch your backs. Anything can be seen as an egregious cardinal offense and anyone can be fired based off of hearsay and past offenses that exceed the time limit UPS has set forth. Employees time is done and will move forward BUT fair warning to all of you. Thanks for your help and insight all. Stay safe out there.

ups had tiered wages when i was there which hte union foolishly agreed to, which incentivizes ups to fire higher paid employees.

 

[Thebrownblob]

ups had tiered wages when i was there which hte union foolishly agreed to, which incentivizes ups to fire higher paid employees.

Nope, most top scale full-time employees are here many decades. a large portion of them retire from here. Pretty difficult to get fired here unless you’re a complete tool.

 

[Mrs.BrownCoat]

I hope YOU learned a lesson

Nah, wasn’t me. 30 years in my field and have never been terminated from a job.
Maybe I should apply to UPS. Nah, brown isn’t my color.

 

[Mrs.BrownCoat]

ups had tiered wages when i was there which hte union foolishly agreed to, which incentivizes ups to fire higher paid employees.

Yep, apply again and they might hire you at a lower wage.

 

[Mrs.BrownCoat]

wu tang clan said diversify your bonds

 

[nWo]

Long term employees have tenure. Good luck firing us.

 

[rickyb]

Nope, most top scale full-time employees are here many decades. a large portion of them retire from here. Pretty difficult to get fired here unless you’re a complete tool.

at the 2 workplace i worked at with tiered wages, it was top wage after a few years including ups

 

[rickyb]

Long term employees have tenure. Good luck firing us.

what do you mean?

 

[rickyb]

what will you do now for work?

 

[Thebrownblob]

what do you mean?

That means it’s very difficult to fire. We have good union representation.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yep, apply again and they might hire you at a lower wage.

@Mrs.BrownCoat sounds like you have an axe grind. Starting wages have gone up significantly since the last contract was passed.

 

[Mrs.BrownCoat]

what will you do now for work?

It’s not me. I’ve worked in my field 30 years and have never been terminated.