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Easy there Mr Grand wizard or whatever the rednecks introduce you as at the klans meetings
El Correcto
god is dead
Wow, I miss having a competent president that could give such wonderful coherent speeches off script and would actually answer questions from the press.Now...Listen carefully...and tell me what you don't understand hearing with your own ears.
GDP Growth Under Trump Was the Worst Since Hoover
The pandemic was partly to blame, and there are some measures that make his record look better. But it was not a stellar performance.www.bloomberg.com
Trump Leaving Office With 3 Million Less Jobs Than When He Entered
Trump has the worst jobs record of any president since Herbert Hoover in 1933.www.newsweek.com
When you call someone a liar make sure you can prove they are. Talk the talk and walk the walk.
Facts are sticky things.
He really was such a wonderful human being.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
BMWMC
B.C. boohoo buster.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
You seem like a compulsive liar.Now...Listen carefully...and tell me what you don't understand hearing with your own ears.
GDP Growth Under Trump Was the Worst Since Hoover
The pandemic was partly to blame, and there are some measures that make his record look better. But it was not a stellar performance.
Trump Leaving Office With 3 Million Less Jobs Than When He Entered
Trump has the worst jobs record of any president since Herbert Hoover in 1933.
When you call someone a liar make sure you can prove they are. Talk the talk and walk the walk.
Facts are sticky things.
Why do you harbor so much hate?
MAKAVELI
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Don't be an oldfart in retirement. Do something big like climb Mt. Everest.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Cop out
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Tommy.
The courts hate the Constitution? Is the right to jury nullification in the Constitution?
Was it their property that was trespassed?
wilberforce15
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Irrelevant.
wilberforce15
Well-Known Member
It's in there so obviously that John Jay treated it as obvious.
The check on crazy jurors is provided in jury selection. The balance on judicial tyranny is provided by jurors. It's in the basic fabric of the republic in the existence of jury trials.
If the only thing jurors were alllowed to determine was fact, and not fact and law, then they are superfluous. There is no point in convening commoners to determine the facts of the case. The only purpose in a jury system is to have them judge the law as well.
wilberforce15
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The case of William Penn (yes, that William Penn) and William Mead.
Common law had established jury nullification a century before the constitution, at least.
"Penn's steadfastness and the inflexible firmness of the jury in maintaining their own rights, and adhering to their conscientious convictions, allowed a great stride in the evolution of the jury as a free, judicial body."
We have law enforcement for a reason. We have licensed security guards for a reason. People have the right to protect themselves and their property. Leave running down suspected thieves to professionals.
wilberforce15
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This is America. You can act in an orderly fashion to detain a suspected criminal for appropriate authorities to arrive.
I'm sorry you hate America.
John Jay gave an opinion. It's not spelled out in the Constitution. Juries may ignore the law in their verdict but that doesn't make their verdict the last word on a given matter. We have judges and appeals courts for a reason.
wilberforce15
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English common law is a thing. I don't know if you knew that.
America existed to assert the rights of Englishmen that were not being respected.
Rights laid out in common law are assumed at the foundation of the republic, because asserting English rights was the point of the whole thing, you dingbat.
wilberforce15
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Irony:
Judicial supremacy is what's not in the constitution.
The judges are not the last say in the matter. And the supreme court doesn't make law or give the final determination what is constitutional. The courts usurped that power.
Did they act in an orderly fashion? Running a man down who MAY have done something wrong, resulting in his death because they weren't trained professionals doesn't sound orderly to me. Years ago I stayed at my mother's for awhile. I walked my dog every night and about a week into doing that, in a country neighborhood, a deputy sheriff pulled along side of me and started quizzing me about someone's pickup in the area being messed with. Told him I was walking my dog, off leash out in the country, lived right around the corner, was out there every night. After trying several times to get me to say something that might incriminate me he drove on. Having seen one guy step outside with his pistol and glare at me that week I have wondered what would've happened if armed neighbors who didn't like me walking up and down the road for whatever reason had taken upon themselves to confront and detain me? People who aren't used to such situations and are emotionally hyped up may make irreparable mistakes. Leave law enforcement to professionals and control your fantasies of glory.
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