That gets nowhere though. Every time the government changes party, 51 votes changes everything.it would be for everything and a budget would at least get passed
That gets nowhere though. Every time the government changes party, 51 votes changes everything.it would be for everything and a budget would at least get passed
um thats the point of going nuclearSimple majorities aren't allowed in the Senate on appropriations bills. They've got to have 60 unfortunately.
yes, that would be a downside. however i gurantee the dems would not hesitate going nuclearThat gets nowhere though. Every time the government changes party, 51 votes changes everything.
And Trump has been attacked by members of his own party like Flake for trying to fix it. The only group that wants things truly fixed is the group that put Trump in power. Same people who are lambasted daily by Dems, RINOS, everyone with a vested interest to get their hands on all the money going through Washington.I am advocating for the opposite. We've done the simple things. Now they have to go all in...if they really intend to fix it.
"Nuclear" in the Senate means just allowing a simple 51 majority. It's not allowed on appropriations votes. Why, I don't know.um thats the point of going nuclear
Well, that's governing for you. Maybe if they'd try and convince more instead of wanting a fight on everything they could do it. No matter what you think of Trump, you can't say he's been making it easy on himself.And Trump has been attacked by members of his own party like Flake for trying to fix it. The only group that wants things truly fixed is the group that put Trump in power. Same people who are lambasted daily by Dems, RINOS, everyone with a vested interest to get their hands on all the money going through Washington.
In theory, yes. But where are these funds? Just a bunch of IOU's.You are aware that there is a Social Security Trust Fund?
Trump shoots off his mouth but that doesn't change the fact the Dems aren't willing to be bipartisan. They wanted a "clean" bill on DACA. In other words DACA only with no concessions to immigration reform. And as was pointed out there's nothing in the continuing resolution they're against. But they want DACA included so the shutdown is on them. Unfortunately the public perception, with the help of the media, is that it's the Republicans causing the problem.Well, that's governing for you. Maybe if they'd try and convince more instead of wanting a fight on everything they could do it. No matter what you think of Trump, you can't say he's been making it easy on himself.
And yet SS is being paid in full but won't be down the road. That when there won't be even the IOU's to pay the full amount.In theory, yes. But where are these funds? Just a bunch of IOU's.
They have to get DACA attached to a CR. It's the only leverage they have and they have been given absolutely no reason to trust Trump, McConnell or Ryan. How do you make a deal with those liars? And even the republicans can't trust Trump!Trump shoots off his mouth but that doesn't change the fact the Dems aren't willing to be bipartisan. They wanted a "clean" bill on DACA. In other words DACA only with no concessions to immigration reform. And as was pointed out there's nothing in the continuing resolution they're against. But they want DACA included so the shutdown is on them. Unfortunately the public perception, with the help of the media, is that it's the Republicans causing the problem.
Trump shoots off his mouth but that doesn't change the fact the Dems aren't willing to be bipartisan. They wanted a "clean" bill on DACA. In other words DACA only with no concessions to immigration reform. And as was pointed out there's nothing in the continuing resolution they're against. But they want DACA included so the shutdown is on them. Unfortunately the public perception, with the help of the media, is that it's the Republicans causing the problem.
Can you show me the bill? They had a meeting. Durbin claimed Trump used bad words. Durbin didn't get what he wanted, which was a DACA only bill. Trump is willing to do DACA if other immigration issues are agreed to. Dems won't do it.Did the president not invite the democrats and republicans to bring him a bill? Did Durbin and Graham bring him one?
Yes and yes.
And then what happened?
Can't trust the guy.
If you don't trust Durbin, what about Graham? Oh. He's a RINO now too I guess.Can you show me the bill? They had a meeting. Durbin claimed Trump used bad words. Durbin didn't get what he wanted, which was a DACA only bill. Trump is willing to do DACA if other immigration issues are agreed to. Dems won't do it.
Show me the bill Graham introduced.If you don't trust Durbin, what about Graham? Oh. He's a RINO now too I guess.
Stop playing dumb. Everyone knows what went down.Show me the bill Graham introduced.
They could have done more under Obama and didn't.yes, that would be a downside. however i gurantee the dems would not hesitate going nuclear
Where's the bill introduced in Congress? A closed door meeting with the president doesn't count.Stop playing dumb. Everyone knows what went down.
They could have done more under Obama and didn't.
Why not? It's what he asked forWhere's the bill introduced in Congress? A closed door meeting with the president doesn't count.