Should part time employees make the same rate as full time employees?

[dogs.bite.me]

You don’t think a single part time worker at ups should be able to support themselves financially?

Wtf happened to this country? Do you think you should be able to support a family on a full time income? Because I do, so why shouldn’t a single guy be able to work and live while going through school and get an education? Or just pay enough for a roof over their head and food?

Off of part time, no.

Part time =part living
Full time =full living.

Just my opinion since you asked. And here’s why.

If everyone could live off of part time wages, how long would that last? Because that would raise the price of everything. I can’t take my family to fast food now and get out of there under $50 for 4 of us. But once you get your “living wage” as part time, that will quickly become obsolete because of the inflation it causes and you’ll be right back here saying more more more.

Part time is not meant to live on. It’s meant to supplement income. Not be the primary income.

 

[dogs.bite.me]

My goodness. I have had to had said this 50 times by now

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT DRIVERS

Drivers have a different responsibility than loaders. I’m talking about part time warehouse vs full time warehouse

10 years loading part time is $15 an hour. A full time warehouse employee doing the same exact work makes $34 an hour

Look who I was replying to guy.

Calm your tits. I’m about done with you. You attacking all FT is hurting more than it’s helping.

 

[HarryWarden]

Part timers have fewer responsibilities, therefore they get fewer dollars.

It isn’t equal work because the combo employee has more responsibilities, even if some days all he does is load or unload.

They don’t have fewer responsibilities, they work fewer hours, that’s it

They have fewer responsibilities than drivers, so there should be a pay difference there, but warehouse workers have the same responsibilities, whether you’re unload or load, you make the same hourly rate. If you do unload and load, you’re full time and get first priority for longer hours, but you shouldn’t be getting paid more than the guy you’re standing next to doing the same job just because after this shift you’re going to go unload

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

They don’t have fewer responsibilities, they work fewer hours, that’s it

They have fewer responsibilities than drivers, so there should be a pay difference there, but warehouse workers have the same responsibilities, whether you’re unload or load, you make the same hourly rate. If you do unload and load, you’re full time and get first priority for longer hours, but you shouldn’t be getting paid more than the guy you’re standing next to doing the same job just because after this shift you’re going to go unload

Incorrect. Yes you should.

 

[Wally]

60% of ups is part time. It’s the reason you’re able to have a job at this point. It’s baffling how much disrespect you show to your fellow union workers

Lol, that's what happens when you as a voting block, do not vote.

 

[dogs.bite.me]

And what job classification is “full time package handler”?

You are a package handler. The full time employee is not.

He’s talking about combo employee. It’s been pointed out to him it’s not the same work so it’s not the same pay. But he doesn’t want to hear it.

 

[HarryWarden]

Off of part time, no.

Part time =part living
Full time =full living.

Just my opinion since you asked. And here’s why.

If everyone could live off of part time wages, how long would that last? Because that would raise the price of everything. I can’t take my family to fast food now and get out of there under $50 for 4 of us. But once you get your “living wage” as part time, that will quickly become obsolete because of the inflation it causes and you’ll be right back here saying more more more.

Part time is not meant to live on. It’s meant to supplement income. Not be the primary income.

So you you think you should be able to raise a family on a full time position, but not take care of yourself and go to school on a part time position?

Why do you care? It’s someone doing the same exact work, just less hours so they will get the a smaller paycheck, what do you care what they’re doing with that money?

 

[Thebrownblob]

He’s talking about combo employee. It’s been pointed out to him it’s not the same work so it’s not the same pay. But he doesn’t want to hear it.

I wonder if he would fight so hard for the article 40 air drivers who don’t get holiday pay for being required to work holidays? Even though they’re doing the same job as a driver who volunteered next to them delivering air? They’re in a different classification.

 

[HarryWarden]

He’s talking about combo employee. It’s been pointed out to him it’s not the same work so it’s not the same pay. But he doesn’t want to hear it.

It is the same work. I’m standing next to the guy doing the same job as me. And when he’s done he goes and does an easier job. You’re saying since he works 4 extra hours doing an easier job after our shift he deserves $15 more an hour for loading the same packages I did?

 

[HarryWarden]

I wonder if he would fight so hard for the article 40 air drivers who don’t get holiday pay for being required to work holidays? Even though they’re doing the same job as a driver who volunteered next to them delivering air? They’re in a different classification.

What makes you think I wouldn’t?

 

[Thebrownblob]

So you you think you should be able to raise a family on a full time position, but not take care of yourself and go to school on a part time position?

Why do you care? It’s someone doing the same exact work, just less hours so they will get the a smaller paycheck, what do you care what they’re doing with that money?

Just curiously, what are you studying to be?

 

[Thebrownblob]

What makes you think I wouldn’t?

Because I haven’t heard you say anything yet, and I’m pointing out different classifications pay differently for the same work all throughout our contract.

 

[dogs.bite.me]

So you you think you should be able to raise a family on a full time position, but not take care of yourself and go to school on a part time position?

Why do you care? It’s someone doing the same exact work, just less hours so they will get the a smaller paycheck, what do you care what they’re doing with that money?

I don’t. I would like you guys to get what you can get. I explain why full time gets more and you discard it saying it’s not different, when it actually is.
But you seem to think I’m against you. You read one sentence of my reply and take off on your rant about that one sentence, ignoring all the other statements I made.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Way to miss the point. You wouldn’t be able to work if not for the part timers. They’re 60% of the labor and the reason you have a job

Lol.

 

[HarryWarden]

We are getting rid of it and we should get rid of it. Unfortunately, it was our side that thought it was a good idea. But be that as it may, they’re still going to be different classifications.

But it’s a different classification, that’s what your argument was for my position. Do you not see what im saying? Just because of the wording and being a different classification doesn’t make it right or fair

 

[Thebrownblob]

I don’t. I would like you guys to get what you can get. I explain why full time gets more and you discard it saying it’s not different, when it actually is.
But you seem to think I’m against you. You read one sentence of my reply and take off on your rant about that one sentence, ignoring all the other statements I made.

I think that’s the point of the nation to him the whole time as well. I hope he gets whatever are negotiating team can get for him but his sense of what is worth may not add up to what they can get so I’m assuming he’s going to vote no.

 

[Thebrownblob]

But it’s a different classification, that’s what your argument was for my position. Do you not see what im saying? Just because of the wording and being a different classification doesn’t make it right or fair

Brother, nothing is right and fair all the time it’s a contract give-and-take.

 

[HarryWarden]

Incorrect. Yes you should.

and why do you think so?

 

[MAKAVELI]

Because I haven’t heard you say anything yet, and I’m pointing out different classifications pay differently for the same work all throughout our contract.

If it's wrong for 22.4 it's wrong for all. You really can't stand on your pedestal and claim otherwise. That's what being in a union is for.

 

[HarryWarden]

If it's wrong for 22.4 it's wrong for all. You really can't stand on your pedestal and claim otherwise. That's what being in a union is for.

Thank you man that’s exactly my point