Should part time employees make the same rate as full time employees?

[Thebrownblob]

If it's wrong for 22.4 it's wrong for all. You really can't stand on your pedestal and claim otherwise. That's what being in a union is for.

OK then it’s wrong not to pay $41 an hour to part time too lol. You might want to read our contract. There’s lots of different classifications I’m not a fan of any of them, but they are there

 

[Thebrownblob]

Thank you man that’s exactly my point

No, that’s not your point you said driver should make more. It’s a union job. You need to stick to the script.

 

[HarryWarden]

No, that’s not your point you said driver should make more. It’s a union job. You need to stick to the script.

Driver should make more because it’s a different job. I said equal pay for equal work probably a hundred times now.

I’m saying a part time warehouse worker that is fully progressed should have the same hourly rate as a full time warehouse worker

Really the only response you have given against that is “it’s a different classification”. And i said, well same with 22.4 but we agree that that’s not fair or right

 

[dogs.bite.me]

It is the same work. I’m standing next to the guy doing the same job as me. And when he’s done he goes and does an easier job. You’re saying since he works 4 extra hours doing an easier job after our shift he deserves $15 more an hour for loading the same packages I did?

easier job or not, its part of his responsibilites and not yours, therefore not the same work.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Driver should make more because it’s a different job. I said equal pay for equal work probably a hundred times now.

I’m saying a part time warehouse worker that is fully progressed should have the same hourly rate as a full time warehouse worker

Really the only response you have given against that is “it’s a different classification”. And i said, well same with 22.4 but we agree that that’s not fair or right

Nope we’re all union. Should all make the same! To say otherwise, it is being hypocritical.

And when the new contract becomes available, I’m assuming I don’t know because you will not be making the same as the 22.3?

 

[HarryWarden]

easier job or not, its part of his responsibilites and not yours, therefore not the same work.

So that justifies $15 more an hour? His responsibility difference to mine is he has to work a second shift, that’s it, and he gets paid for the extra hours

If he hired on to that second shift, he wouldn’t get paid extra for that job, so what difference does it make for him to work it after the first one? Full time gets guarantee 8 hours, that’s the benefit. There’s no extra responsibilities

 

[HarryWarden]

Nope we’re all union. Should all make the same! To say otherwise, it is being hypocritical.

And when the new contract becomes available, I’m assuming I don’t know because you will not be making the same as the 22.3?

you’re not even arguing in good faith now. You’re making up fake points.

I said drivers should make more than warehouse and you’re mocking me for that

 

[Thebrownblob]

So that justifies $15 more an hour? His responsibility difference to mine is he has to work a second shift, that’s it, and he gets paid for the extra hours

If he hired on to that second shift, he wouldn’t get paid extra for that job, so what difference does it make for him to work it after the first one? Full time gets guarantee 8 hours, that’s the benefit. There’s no extra responsibilities

you’re not even arguing in good faith now. You’re making up fake points.

I said drivers should make more than warehouse and you’re mocking me for that

Why we all move packages?

 

[HarryWarden]

Why we all move packages?

thanks for making it clear you don’t actually have an argument based on logic

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

His responsibility difference to mine is he has to work a second shift

There it is. A responsibility difference.

The reason he makes more than you. By your own admission.

You just don’t feel it is worth as much as it is. You’re free to have that opinion.

 

[MAKAVELI]

OK then it’s wrong not to pay $41 an hour to part time too lol. You might want to read our contract. There’s lots of different classifications I’m not a fan of any of them, but they are there

If the part time position is a driver, why not? The more classifications is part of the problem and a big reason many non union employees don't like unions. Why overcomplicate and undervalue your fellow coworkers? I think what SOB is doing, bringing those lower paid employees recognition and better pay is exactly what you guys need to make gains in other companies. That's what will ultimately make for a stronger union in the future.

 

[Thebrownblob]

thanks for making it clear you don’t actually have an argument based on logic

So you think that’s fair? To devalue one person’s work over and others? SMH

 

[HarryWarden]

There it is. A responsibility difference.

The reason he makes more than you. By your own admission.

You just don’t feel it is worth as much as it is. You’re free to have that opinion.

So do you feel that drivers who sign a 9.5 list should have a smaller hourly rate?

 

[Thebrownblob]

If the part time position is a driver, why not? The more classifications is part of the problem and a big reason many non union employees don't like unions. Why overcomplicate and undervalue your fellow coworkers? I think what SOB is doing, bringing those lower paid employees recognition and better pay is exactly what you guys need to make gains in other companies. That's what will ultimately make for a stronger union in the future.

Well, thank you for your outsiders view on what we already know. No one is suggesting the pay isn’t going up we are suggesting it’s not going up to what Mr. Harry thinks is fair today in the interview on Bloomberg. Shawn said it was never offered and he wasn’t even asking for $35 an hour, but he would certainly take it if they offered.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

So do you feel that drivers who sign a 9.5 list should have a smaller hourly rate?

No. We are all RPCDs. Same classification.

The classification rules say we get to file 9.5s.

 

[Generic UPS Monkey]

Inflation isn't caused by UPS raising part time rate. It's caused by the government printing more money especially as a bad solution to solve macro economic recession or depression.

 

[evilleace]

So do you feel that drivers who sign a 9.5 list should have a smaller hourly rate?

Umm no still has the same responsibilities as a driver who works 8,10, or 12 hours.

 

[HarryWarden]

No. We are all RPCDs. Same classification.

The classification rules say we get to file 9.5s.

Stop with the classifications man. I’m asking you what you think is fair

When people brought up 22.4 did you say “different classifications, it’s fair”?

 

[HarryWarden]

Umm no still has the same responsibilities as a driver who works 8,10, or 12 hours.

Exactly my point. And a warehouse worker has the same responsibilities working 4 hours as the warehouse working 8 hours

Thank you

 

[Thebrownblob]

Stop with the classifications man. I’m asking you what you think is fair

When people brought up 22.4 did you say “different classifications, it’s fair”?

So you’re voting no if there’s classifications in the next contract? You better get your Red ink ready you’re about to be disappointed