Storming the Capitol
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Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
Oh, they'll keep it going until November 2024 at least.
newfie
Well-Known Member
an unarmed insurrection that led to multiple tresspassing charges and 0 inusurrection charges
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Up In Smoke
Well-Known Member
Iran-Contra lasted 2.5 years and Benghazi formed 10 committees and lasted more than 4 years. So I imagine the 1/6 committees will continue for some time.
The Histrionics and Melodrama Around 1/6 Are Laughable, but They Serve Several Key Purposes
The number of people killed by pro-Trump supporters at the January 6 Capitol riot is equal to the number of pro-Trump supporters who brandished guns or knives inside the Capitol. That is the same number as the total of Americans who — after a full year of a Democrat-led DOJ conducting what is heralded as “the most expansive federal law enforcement investigation in US history” — have been charged with inciting insurrection, sedition, treason or conspiracy to overthrow the government as a result of that riot one year ago. Coincidentally, it is the same number as Americans who ended up being criminally charged by the Mueller probe of conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, and the number of wounds — grave or light — which AOC, who finally emerged at night to assure an on-edge nation that she was “okay" while waiting in an office building away from the riot at the rotunda, sustained on that solemn day.
That number is zero. But just as these rather crucial facts do not prevent the dominant wing of the U.S. corporate media and Democratic Party leaders from continuing to insist that Donald Trump's 2016 election victory was illegitimate due to his collusion with the Kremlin, it also does not prevent January 6 from being widely described in those same circles as an Insurrection, an attempted coup, an event as traumatizing as Pearl Harbor (2,403 dead) or the 9/11 attack (2,977 dead), and as the gravest attack on American democracy since the mid-19th Century Civil War (750,000 dead). The Huffington Post's White House reporter S.V. Date said that it was wrong to compare 1/6 to 9/11, because the former — the three-hour riot at the Capitol — was “1,000 percent worse.”
What happened on January 6 was ugly and disturbing. But it was nowhere near an insurrection, a coup, or anything threatening American democracy (to the extent it can be said to exist) in a fundamental or sustained way. That core truth — that it was merely an angry protest that, like so many of its kind, organically turned into a three-hour riot killing nobody except four of the protesters — destroys its value. Only the false narrative that has been constructed over the last year and consecrated by today's inane festivities can convert this banal episode into some world-historic event that at once makes heroes out of those who were there to oppose it and justifies everything and anything done in the name of preventing its repetition.
Were they attempting to prevent the peaceful transfer of power brought about by a national election? From what I read, an insurrection by definition doesn’t have to be armed.
Sportello
Well-Known Member
Putin lovers. SMH
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Is that what Democrats were doing to Trump?
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Double standards don’t work that way.
Hey Sourcemaster.... Great source, huh?
Glenn Greenwald, one of the few reporting the "truth" and that hurts sometimes.
Read it an weep.
newfie
Well-Known Member
that is the dnc spin
again if that is a legitimate claim than why was no one charged with insurrection?
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
Russiagate was debunked awhile ago fyi
floridays
Well-Known Member
You silly person.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Sanborn can't answer questions. She looked terrible. She looked bad, but she can't answer anything. If she did, she get fired. We've heard it a million times. Active investigation, we can't talk about it, but Cruz made her look bad.
Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI, should be called in and asked what's the status of the investigation? Are you looking at any federal agents? Are you looking at anybody in government who might be involved in this? You know what he'll say? I can't comment.
The conspiracy theory that some members of the federal government were involved in the riot is alive and well. I don't believe it. It doesn't make any sense that the FBI would jeopardize everybody inside that bureau by launching a false flag operation or whatever you want to call it.
An FBI informer doesn't act like Mr. Epps. Mr. Epps is getting off on being a center of attention. That's not what undercover people do.
Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI, should be called in and asked what's the status of the investigation? Are you looking at any federal agents? Are you looking at anybody in government who might be involved in this? You know what he'll say? I can't comment.
The conspiracy theory that some members of the federal government were involved in the riot is alive and well. I don't believe it. It doesn't make any sense that the FBI would jeopardize everybody inside that bureau by launching a false flag operation or whatever you want to call it.
An FBI informer doesn't act like Mr. Epps. Mr. Epps is getting off on being a center of attention. That's not what undercover people do.
oldngray
nowhere special
The big problem is Epps is on video doing more than other people who have been locked up for over a year without a trial. And he was on the FBI list until it suddenly disappeared without explanation.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
| The tale of Ray Epps is pretty instructive. The conspiracy industry has Epps as some kind of Capitol riot mastermind. He did encourage demonstrators to besiege the Capitol. It's on tape. But old Ray, was smart enough not to trespass himself. He never entered the building. As the conspiracy goes, Ray is somehow connected to the FBI or something and that's why he hasn't been arrested. He's a "false flag" hombre who set up the actual trespassers. Epps may have "incited" a riot, his defense would be freedom of speech. With more than 700 folks arrested for actually entering the Capitol, it's not hard to see why the feds did not go after Ray. Not a shutdown case. Why waste time and money on an indictment you could lose. In real life, Ray is rumored to be a member of "The Oathkeepers," a far right bunch. He's a former Marine who does handyman work in Arizona. But now, he's Serpico! The non-stop conspiracy industry is a never-ending wasteland where money is made by charlatans. ( See also any thread related to Covid) Epps did testify before the bogus House panel investigating January 6, and they should release the transcript of the under-oath testimony by the "Oathkeeper." They won't. Epps is not 007. |
oldngray
nowhere special
Epps was not just some innocent flower attending a riot. Ray Epps led the protesters to the US Capitol, ordered protesters to remove the initial barriers, urged people to storm the Capitol by megaphone and then attacked the police with a GIANT Trump sign
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
I think they turned Epps. They probably threatened to indict him and his family.
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