Teamster Buyout?

[no more than 9]

Thoughts?

Sign me up!

 

[no more than 9]

So if youre 55 with 25-30 years ft an early retirement might be worth it?

How about 55 y/o with 35 years?

 

[10:30 resi]

Curious if this will be the new ac in trucks/heat exhaustion next contract

Are most drivers willing to forgo raises to shorten the progression? Are most drivers willing to strike to shorten the progression even tho an overwhelming majority who know what that really means have already reached top rate?

 

[Wally]

I’m having a hard time understanding how they could strip healthcare away from someone who’s already qualified for it. Maybe if they didn’t have the age yet I could understand but if they did, I don’t see how it could get stripped away. But this is UPS so who knows.

Especially since if one worked for 25-30 years they have contributed to retirees benefits. Our union runs the insurance plan, not the company.

Is UPS saying they have the power to cut off funding any time they wish?

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

Are most drivers willing to forgo raises to shorten the progression? Are most drivers willing to strike to shorten the progression even tho an overwhelming majority who know what that really means have already reached top rate?

Doubt it, but feels like low hanging fruit. Nobody would have striked for ac in truck that is shut off at every stop. But the union made it a priority and also low hanging fruit.

Hoping for stronger 9.5 and sooner vacations next contract. But have a feeling with the buyouts and Roadie delivering ground pkg the next contract may be the last and it might be in the unions best interest to avoid a strike. Hope I'm wrong

 

[Thebrownblob]

Especially since if one worked for 25-30 years they have contributed to retirees benifits. Our union runs the insurance plan, not the company.

Is UPS saying they have the power to cut off funding any time they wish?

Well, we don’t know the details yet and I think a lot of people are imagining they’re going to offer this buyout to people who haven’t reached either the years or the age to qualify for insurance.

I have no idea why anyone would take that offer, but I suppose that will be their choice.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Doubt it, but feels like low hanging fruit. Nobody would have striked for ac in truck that is shut off at every stop. But the union made it a priority and also low hanging fruit.

Hoping for stronger 9.5 and sooner vacations next contract. But have a feeling with the buyouts and Roadie delivering ground pkg the next contract may be the last and it might be in the unions best interest to avoid a strike. Hope I'm wrong

What do you feel would make 9.5 language stronger? Most of the guys now are using it like a piggy bank. I don’t think they want 9.5 hours to go away anymore. They’re getting used to the 2 and $3000 checks every month extra.

 

[Wally]

Wow. I wonder what the numbers are on the buyouts. Hopefully it opens up opportunities for the younger guys.

Good luck.

 

[Wally]

Thoughts?

If one worked for 25-30 years they have contributed to retirees benefits. Our union runs the insurance plan, not the company.

Is UPS saying they have the power to cut off funding any time they wish?

 

[Thebrownblob]

If one worked for 25-30 years they have contributed to retirees benifits. Our union runs the insurance plan, not the company.

Is UPS saying they have the power to cut off funding any time they wish?

I didn’t read that anywhere so I don’t know. People are speculating because really no details have been given yet. It isn’t a far stretch though to imagine that UPS would make a deal that’s beneficial mostly to them.

 

[10:30 resi]

Doubt it, but feels like low hanging fruit. Nobody would have striked for ac in truck that is shut off at every stop. But the union made it a priority and also low hanging fruit.

Hoping for stronger 9.5 and sooner vacations next contract. But have a feeling with the buyouts and Roadie delivering ground pkg the next contract may be the last and it might be in the unions best interest to avoid a strike. Hope I'm wrong

I don't think air conditioning cost a meaningful amount of money. All the components for the air conditioning system are probably 300 -400 bucks per truck and no additional labor cost when installed at the factory. They don't have to sink a bunch of mechanic hours into retrofitting existing package cars.
Putting the progression back to say 90 days is 500+ extra per every new driver hired driver every week for 3 years and 9 months. Much more substantial cost. I'm not against a shorter progression those drivers are out there busting their ass just like me and I shouldn't be making more than 2x as much money I'm just saying it's apples to oranges

 

[RangerMan06]

What do you feel would make 9.5 language stronger? Most of the guys now are using it like a piggy bank. I don’t think they want 9.5 hours to go away anymore. They’re getting used to the 2 and $3000 checks every month extra.

9.5 clock out for anyone on the list.

All hours voluntarily worked over 9.5 are automatically added to your paycheck with no grievance procedure necessary.

 

[10:30 resi]

What do you feel would make 9.5 language stronger? Most of the guys now are using it like a piggy bank. I don’t think they want 9.5 hours to go away anymore. They’re getting used to the 2 and $3000 checks every month extra.

Automatic payment of the penalty on the regular paycheck you receive for the week that 9.5 rights were violated. Or if we actually want to end excessive overtime, health & welfare and pension contributions for all hours worked instead of just the first 8 in a day so that it is no longer cheaper to pay penalties than it is to hire another employee.

 

[govols019]

We all know the feeder news network started all these rumors!!

I’m going to bet when the offer comes. People are gonna be disappointed.. I mean after all it is UPS.

Life is full of bitter disappointments.....that was what my old center manager loved to say all the time.

I hated him

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

What do you feel would make 9.5 language stronger? Most of the guys now are using it like a piggy bank. I don’t think they want 9.5 hours to go away anymore. They’re getting used to the 2 and $3000 checks every month extra.

No filling, automatic at one punch. Pipe dream though

 

[RangerMan06]

I don't think air conditioning cost a meaningful amount of money. All the components for the air conditioning system are probably 300 -400 bucks per truck and no additional labor cost when installed at the factory. They don't have to sink a bunch of mechanic hours into retrofitting existing package cars.
Putting the progression back to say 90 days is 500+ extra per every new driver hired driver every week for 3 years and 9 months. Much more substantial cost. I'm not against a shorter progression those drivers are out there busting their ass just like me and I shouldn't be making more than 2x as much money I'm just saying it's apples to oranges

ALL UPS trucks come standard with AC from the factory. UPS pays to take the AC out

 

[RangerMan06]

No filling, automatic at one punch. Pipe dream though

Shouldn't be a pipe dream. Union just needs to stand up

 

[UnionStrong]

Omg... Quit crying!

STFU, jackrabbit

 

[10:30 resi]

ALL UPS trucks come standard with AC from the factory. UPS pays to take the AC out

I've seen that build sheet too where they paid a couple hundred to have the AC taken out but I also think that was a supe van. A package car is a custom order built to UPS specification it shouldn't have any "standard" equipment.

 

[nWo]

I could see some drivers taking a nice lump sum to quit. Then go work an easier job until it's time to collect on your pension.