The Ballot mess!

[O/C]

Well I'm happy with my healthcare and other bennies so it wouldn't be about that. What is at issue is a small minority who are not happy who are holding back any kind of progress for the majority, including our raises.

John, it was before my time but there is a reason we have riders and supplements. The majority did not even bother to vote one way or the other, those who voted are the small minority. Even if the Ohio passes it will be a very, very long time till we get any raises.

I believe there was more thought and seniority behind every "no" vote. It would be fun to break the votes down by seniority and full time/part time status.

 

[Johnny Paycheck]

You feel that no votes were more thoughtful and were made by FTers. Well, unfortunately for you, PTers pay union dues too, their votes count just as much.

 

[O/C]

You feel that no votes were more thoughtful and were made by FTers. Well, unfortunately for you, PTers pay union dues too, their votes count just as much.

Maybe a bit overboard with the statement, just considered those guys down in "L89".

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Well I'm happy with my healthcare and other bennies so it wouldn't be about that. What is at issue is a small minority who are not happy who are holding back any kind of progress for the majority, including our raises.

I understand everone wants their money, and to some of you, that 70 cents is a big deal. But you got to keep in mind.......That we are fighting for Fulltime jobs, harassment, and other issues. That will greatly benefit you in the future. We have to fight just like the previous generations did, so that we dont lose any ground!

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

I wonder if Unite Here President Douglas “D” Taylor has a confederacy of fools in his own union denying & spinning his words or does that only happen here...
http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/16441/unite_here_chief_blasts_obama_over_aca

 

[stink219]

I'm sure!
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3992342/


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[realbrown1]

I'm sure!
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3992342/

Sounds like Hoffa doesn't like his own words used by Republicans against Obama and the ACA.
I see nothing wrong in anyone using his words against the ACA. The ACA is a terrible law.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You feel that no votes were more thoughtful and were made by FTers. Well, unfortunately for you, PTers pay union dues too, their votes count just as much.

Look at it this way....

All members dues, are based on a percentage of their hourly rate.

Part-timers get a full share vote.

But, on average.... their monetary dues contribution is substantially less.

Think about it.



-Bug-

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

I'm sure!
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3992342/


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

The best part is that Cruz doesn't even have to misquote or take Hoffa out of context. Hoffa did make a great case against Obamacare (are you still in denial about that?) so Cruz just quotes him word for word. Notice Hoffa made no attempt to change or correct the letter he wrote that's causing him such a headache now.

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[Bubblehead]

What...what...what is...is...is the...the...the date...date...date on...on...on the...the...the letter...letter...letter?

Poor fella has dug such a hole for himself, I'm starting to hear an echo.

 

[stink219]

Yes I have a hard time answering a direct question.

Point being, if you think things are status que, your kidding yourselves.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[stink219]

Been a damn 9 months since "letter gate 2013". If you think things change with a finger snap, I guess your living in fantasy land.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Poor fella has dug such a hole for himself, I'm starting to hear an echo.

Hoffas letter became public on July 12th.

Stink, what's with the date? Are you gonna try to convince Hoffa that he didn't write it?

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[Atomic_Smurf]

Been a damn 9 months since "letter gate 2013". If you think things change with a finger snap, I guess your living in fantasy land.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

So how long do we have to wait till Hoffa's words count?

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[Bubblehead]

Been a damn 9 months since "letter gate 2013". If you think things change with a finger snap, I guess your living in fantasy land.

So, what's changed in the ACA that will make Taft Hartley Plans sustainable?
That's right, you have to be in the right local to be "in the know"?
What a poorly timed, well guarded secret.

 

[stink219]

Not saying he didn't write the letter. But they are working on an exemption. We gotta bypass the 2015 and 2016 tax hit. 25 Billion is a lot of cake, but so is losing the next Presidential election. Dems will put some pressure on Obama as well.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[Bubblehead]

Not saying he didn't write the letter. But they are working on an exemption. We gotta bypass the 2015 and 2016 tax hit. 25 Billion is a lot of cake, but so is losing the next Presidential election. Dems will put some pressure on Obama as well.

So your saying we should jump into the deep end of the pool, then learn how to swim?

Big Brother will catch you?

 

[stink219]

Nope. I'm saying your having a black and white view of how these changes come about. Are you saying you'll rather rely on a company that will stick it to you at every turn?


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[upschuck]

That letter was signed by three union presidents, each putting worst case scenario on what could possibly happen to the worst performing plan. It also states that we could not get 40/hrs/week. That is not going to happen at UPS either.

You all no'ers must be on the glass half empty side on things.

 

[stink219]

That letter was signed by three union presidents, each putting worst case scenario on what could possibly happen to the worst performing plan. It also states that we could not get 40/hrs/week. That is not going to happen at UPS either.

You all no'ers must be on the glass half empty side on things.

More like all empty?


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~