The future of Brown Cafe

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Integrity

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You're kidding , right???

This place has been a zoo with a bunch of animals out of control for YEARS.

I had private conversations with Cheryl several years ago. She pretty much washed her hands of this forum long ago and only kept it going for sentimental reasons....

Doesn't make any logical sense to keep it going.

FUH
My interactions with Cheryl, I only had a handful over the years, were always very positive. She was a pleasure to interact with.
 

Integrity

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Actually reminds me of exactly how it is in the morning before we leave the building. Everyone pissed and complaining and then eventually it comes together and gets done.😂
I can’t argue here. Over the decades experience at UPS I can be honest to say I ran into very unhappy people way more than I ran into happy people. I have found that to be the case on the BC as well but I have to admit, probably to a lesser extent here.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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Actually reminds me of exactly how it is in the morning before we leave the building. Everyone pissed and complaining and then eventually it comes together and gets done.😂
Yeah. It’s sad. They all look like someone just killed their puppies, drained their life savings, and then took off with their girlfriends, And then act like the extra stops on their trucks are the equivalent to being expected to move The Rockies to the Mexican/Guatemalan border with a spoon.

Us drivers are compensated EXTREMELY WELL for an an easy job. Yet, people feel the need to be asses towards people here as a way to vent? HA! Vent for what? That’s what I call snowflakes. But no one dares to talk so much :censored2:e as you see here to anyone’s face do they? LOL. Doubt it. The rest are just full time trolls. And sadly some of the long time members have been a part of that. There are plenty of us that aren’t bothered by these idiots but it’s requiring way more scrolling than it used to in order to find relevant content. My BS filter is stretched to the max. 😂
 
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Overpaid Union Thug

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I really haven’t kept up with you or your comments, but I do believe it’s telling that very few Who have been here for quite a while believes what you’re saying. Somehow you don’t have much credibility with people who have had quite a few dealings with you.

@cheryl is not here to either defend or confirm your comment so probably best just not to say them.
I’ve been here as long as most. I’ve never seen anything that warrants the treatment and disrespect she gets. But then again….I haven’t spent nearly as much time on here as most of the members that treat her like that. So I’ve missed a lot.
 

scratch

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I have a few comments to make. There is currently no Administrator for this site. That means that mods don't have the power to put and remove members out of the moderation queue line. If I had that power, I would simply empty it out and see what happens. Some people are in there and I don't know why. Cheryl never put anybody in there over one report, she usually gave people more chances than they deserved. Members stay in there if there is no change in their behavior. A workaround is simply to do what so many others have done, create a new account. So far the tech support guy and Cheryl's daughter has not communicated much with staff, I don't know if the tech guy can grant Administrative powers.

As far as some people who complain about bullying, there is another simple solution. Open your account options and use the "Ignore" feature. Type in some names and the site will magically improve for you. All those other members you don't like will instantly disappear from your feed. You will occasionally see that member's post if they are quoted by somebody else. Do the adult thing and just keep scrolling. Why people like to fight and argue with complete strangers online has always seemed to be a great waste of time to me. It takes two to argue, put them on "Ignore", or just ignore comments you feel are stupid. Nobody cares for self-appointed victims, some people seem to enjoy that.

After several discussions in the mod forum and private chats, we are thinking about making UPS Discussions "On Topic" only. There is simply too much thread derailing, it's getting too ridiculous. There are about twenty other forums on this site to do that. I don't know when we will start this policy, but the sooner the better.
 

ManInBrown

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I make a post that I highly doubt Cheryl checked out a long time ago, as she answered the few PMs I sent her within an hour, and it gets deleted. Lolol. Rather odd.
 

quad decade guy

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I have a few comments to make. There is currently no Administrator for this site. That means that mods don't have the power to put and remove members out of the moderation queue line. If I had that power, I would simply empty it out and see what happens. Some people are in there and I don't know why. Cheryl never put anybody in there over one report, she usually gave people more chances than they deserved. Members stay in there if there is no change in their behavior. A workaround is simply to do what so many others have done, create a new account. So far the tech support guy and Cheryl's daughter has not communicated much with staff, I don't know if the tech guy can grant Administrative powers.

As far as some people who complain about bullying, there is another simple solution. Open your account options and use the "Ignore" feature. Type in some names and the site will magically improve for you. All those other members you don't like will instantly disappear from your feed. You will occasionally see that member's post if they are quoted by somebody else. Do the adult thing and just keep scrolling. Why people like to fight and argue with complete strangers online has always seemed to be a great waste of time to me. It takes two to argue, put them on "Ignore", or just ignore comments you feel are stupid. Nobody cares for self-appointed victims, some people seem to enjoy that.

After several discussions in the mod forum and private chats, we are thinking about making UPS Discussions "On Topic" only. There is simply too much thread derailing, it's getting too ridiculous. There are about twenty other forums on this site to do that. I don't know when we will start this policy, but the sooner the better.
Fair enough.

However, I find it interesting that the folks that are bullied(for lack of a better term) or viciously attacked(this is the thread "derailing") have to "start a new account" or do something else. This is akin to the victim having to move away or change their behavior and the criminal skating. I could be more graphic but the point is made. Pointing out again the TOS and On Topic "rules". Say, why do I have to do lot's of extra stuff?

Personally, I don't "like to fight and argue with complete strangers online"......I would prefer civil conversations....

Personally, I will defend myself here or anywhere. I will answer to the bullying and slander/libel. Noting the anonymity of the offenders. Whether it's "adult' to do that....well, who is to say. How much do we have to take?

"On Topic"....well, well.....my prediction: eliminate the bullying(it's just a few folks)(half dozen or so)(there's only about 20 folks on here anyway) and most of it will be resolved. Now, this idea is going to be brutal on the Mods if it is strictly adhered to. You have a few folks that are so vicious with their relentless attacks.........it is nearly 100% of their posting. No? Absolutely is....

I will say, it will be interesting to see how fairly "On topic" will be interpreted and applied.

I will say, up until this very moment we have had to fend for ourselves......we are tired of it......so are you. Just a few folks are causing the chaos(easily identified)........you want civility? We do to. Stop the bullying(Off topic)....I'll stop pointing it out/responding....magic.

Lastly, I hope I don't have to point out victim shaming. Self-appointed or not. Thanks for listening.
 

clean hairy

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Fair enough.

However, I find it interesting that the folks that are bullied(for lack of a better term) or viciously attacked(this is the thread "derailing") have to "start a new account" or do something else. This is akin to the victim having to move away or change their behavior and the criminal skating. I could be more graphic but the point is made. Pointing out again the TOS and On Topic "rules". Say, why do I have to do lot's of extra stuff?

Personally, I don't "like to fight and argue with complete strangers online"......I would prefer civil conversations....

Personally, I will defend myself here or anywhere. I will answer to the bullying and slander/libel. Noting the anonymity of the offenders. Whether it's "adult' to do that....well, who is to say. How much do we have to take?

"On Topic"....well, well.....my prediction: eliminate the bullying(it's just a few folks)(half dozen or so)(there's only about 20 folks on here anyway) and most of it will be resolved. Now, this idea is going to be brutal on the Mods if it is strictly adhered to. You have a few folks that are so vicious with their relentless attacks.........it is nearly 100% of their posting. No? Absolutely is....

I will say, it will be interesting to see how fairly "On topic" will be interpreted and applied.

I will say, up until this very moment we have had to fend for ourselves......we are tired of it......so are you. Just a few folks are causing the chaos(easily identified)........you want civility? We do to. Stop the bullying(Off topic)....I'll stop pointing it out/responding....magic.

Lastly, I hope I don't have to point out victim shaming. Self-appointed or not. Thanks for listening.
I post comments on you tube videos giving my point of view on the content.
Some replies really flame me for my point of view!
Guess what?
If I do respond, things go downhill real quick, I have more to do with my time than get into an argument with a person on the internet.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
I post comments on you tube videos giving my point of view on the content.
Some replies really flame me for my point of view!
Guess what?
If I do respond, things go downhill real quick, I have more to do with my time than get into an argument with a person on the internet.
Exactly. what's the point? Life is too short to argue with imbeciles.
 

cheryl

I started this.
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This is Jessica, Cheryl and Tony's daughter. I am trying to figure out a way to keep the site going. Any ideas, advice would be helpful. Thanks.
 

Thebrownblob

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This is Jessica, Cheryl and Tony's daughter. I am trying to figure out a way to keep the site going. Any ideas, advice would be helpful. Thanks.
Thank you very much Jessica your parents were much beloved here, we have been brainstorming. There are probably others better than me to give you the update but if you need anything right now you can let us know I’m sure.
 

scratch

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This is Jessica, Cheryl and Tony's daughter. I am trying to figure out a way to keep the site going. Any ideas, advice would be helpful. Thanks.
@BadIdeaGuy sounds like a good fit to continue your mother's vision for what this site should be. I left your middle initial out of your email address when I gave it to him, so that's my fault. Four out of the six current moderators have expressed interest in continuing to help as long as we need to. We are having some problems in that we don't have Administrative permissions to do certain duties. Matt the tech guy finally did get back with us to address some of these concerns.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
This is Jessica, Cheryl and Tony's daughter. I am trying to figure out a way to keep the site going. Any ideas, advice would be helpful. Thanks.

I do not know if this is far fetched..B/C is a great resource for our Union members, any thoughts about it being taken over or partnering with the Teamsters.

O’Brien and his team are a lot more tech savvy than the old crew...it could be an asset especially with the next Contract a year away...

Just a thought..🤔
 
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