im sure whatever you did, did not make up for imperialism/ US state terrorism
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It's funny is how you are always skirting the question of whether or not you are covered under collective bargaining . Given how you are always avoiding having to answer the question one can only conclude that you are and have benefited mightily. So talk about a handout. Without the benefit of collective bargaining your wages if placed in an open labor market would be less than half what they are now. If ever there was a handout your situation stands out among the biggest.
Really, we're terrorizing Haiti? The poorest nation in the hemisphere? Exactly what do they have that we want? We've already got Alicia Keys.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
We don't have them here ... that's what we want!
newfie
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I think I've been very direct . you like handouts. I like earning and paying for everything I get?
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his reference to Napoleon’s savage assault on Haiti , leaving it in ruins, in order to prevent the crime of liberation in the world’s richest colony, the source of much of France ‘s wealth. But perhaps that undertaking too satisfies the fundamental criterion of benevolence: it was supported by the United States , which was naturally outraged and frightened by “the first nation in the world to argue the case of universal freedom for all humankind, revealing the limited definition of freedom adopted by the French and American revolutions.” So Haitian historian Patrick Bellegarde-Smith writes, accurately describing the terror in the slave state next door, which was not relieved even when Haiti ‘s successful liberation struggle, at enormous cost, opened the way to the expansion to the West by compelling Napoleon to accept the Louisiana Purchase . The US continued to do what it could to strangle Haiti, even supporting France’s insistence that Haiti pay a huge indemnity for the crime of liberating itself, a burden it has never escaped – and France, of course, dismisses with elegant disdain Haiti’s request, recently under Aristide, that it at least repay the indemnity, forgetting the responsibilities that a civilized society would accept.
The basic contours of what led to the current tragedy are pretty clear. Just beginning with the 1990 election of Aristide (far too narrow a time frame), Washington was appalled by the election of a populist candidate with a grass-roots constituency just as it had been appalled by the prospect of the hemisphere’s first free country on its doorstep two centuries earlier. Washington ‘s traditional allies in Haiti naturally agreed. “The fear of democracy exists, by definitional necessity, in elite groups who monopolize economic and political power,” Bellegarde-Smith observes in his perceptive history of Haiti ; whether in Haiti or the US or anywhere else.
"The dangers are commonly perceived to be particularly grave in a country like Haiti , which had been ravaged by France and then reduced to utter misery by a century of US intervention. If even people in such dire circumstances can take their fate into their own hands, who knows what might happen elsewhere as the “contagion spreads.”
"The Bush I administration reacted to the disaster of democracy by shifting aid from the democratically elected government to what are called “democratic forces”: the wealthy elites and the business sectors, who, along with the murderers and torturers of the military and paramilitaries, had been lauded by the current incumbents in Washington, in their Reaganite phase, for their progress in “democratic development,” justifying lavish new aid. “The praise came in response to ratification by the Haitian people of a law granting Washington ‘s client killer and torturer Baby Doc Duvalier the authority to suspend the rights of any political party without reasons. The referendum passed by a majority of 99.98%.” It therefore marked a positive step towards democracy as compared with the 99% approval of a 1918 law granting US corporations the right to turn the country into a US plantation, passed by 5% of the population after the Haitian Parliament was disbanded at gunpoint by Wilson’s Marines when it refused to accept this “progressive measure,” essential for “economic development.”"
Old Man Jingles
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Zowert
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Who would win in a conventional (non-nuclear) war with NATO vs Russia, China, Iran and North Korea..? Most would say “obviously NATO” but China has some serious manpower.
I think the US Navy’s 11 aircraft carriers would wreak havoc on the Russia-China alliance. Iran and N. Korea wouldnt offer much.
I think the US Navy’s 11 aircraft carriers would wreak havoc on the Russia-China alliance. Iran and N. Korea wouldnt offer much.
Haiti was the world's richest colony? Seriously?
El Correcto
god is dead
empire is nothing new to america
which one is??
The Spanish pulled tons of silver and gold from their colonies stretching from Mexico to Chile. South Africa had diamonds and gold for the British. They made huge profits in India. I believe Haiti was primarily sugar plantations, thus the mostly slave population.
Being the richest colony in the French West Indies isn't the same as being the richest colony in the world.
"Refugees fleeing to the US from the terror of the US-backed dictatorships were forcefully returned, in gross violation of international humanitarian law. The policy was reversed when a democratically elected government took office. Though the flow of refugees reduced to a trickle, they were mostly granted political asylum. Policy returned to normal when a military junta overthrew the Aristide government after seven months, and state terrorist atrocities rose to new heights. The perpetrators were the army – the inheritors of the National Guard left by Wilson ‘s invaders to control the population – and its paramilitary forces. The most important of these, FRAPH, was founded by CIA asset Emmanuel Constant, who now lives happily in Queens, Clinton and Bush II having dismissed extradition requests — because he would reveal US ties to the murderous junta, it is widely assumed. Constant’s contributions to state terror were, after all, meager; merely prime responsibility for the murder of 4-5000 poor blacks.
yea and what difference does it make?? lol
El Correcto
god is dead
Not sure was wondering if you had a point to your rant as well.
I found that fun fact interesting is all.
we were talking sbout US state terrorism around the world
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