THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[Next Day Err]

Why is the southern border overrun? Trump ran on building the wall and having Mexico pay for it. His first two years the Republicans controlled the house, senate and presidency. Anything he wanted done could have been done easily. Thank God he was able to find the time give the ultra rich big tax breaks!

The real answer is that politics is theatre for both parties. To actually solve a problem requires work. And if you solve the problem then you lose a bargaining chip. And sometimes the attempt at solving the problem is riskier than just complaining endlessly about the problem. The solution to the problem is often worse.

 

[fishtm2001]

The real answer is that politics is theatre for both parties. To actually solve a problem requires work. And if you solve the problem then you lose a bargaining chip. And sometimes the attempt at solving the problem is riskier than just complaining endlessly about the problem. The solution to the problem is often worse.

If enough states chose to cast their electoral votes for the popular winner, we would no longer see a mismatch between who wins the national popular vote and who wins the presidency.

 

[newolddude]

 

[Next Day Err]

Why didn’t the Russians leak the RNC’s emails in 2016?

Are they hanging something over the Republican’s heads?

 

[Wally]

If enough states chose to cast their electoral votes for the popular winner, we would no longer see a mismatch between who wins the national popular vote and who wins the presidency.

Who cares about any popular vote mismatch? Our system is set up as not to care. It works.

 

[newolddude]

Russian state media praise Republicans. Tell McConnell "Well done gramps"

Russian state TV is pleased with Republicans for blocking aid to Ukraine​

 

[BrownFlush]

Tell me you have no idea how absentee ballots are counted without telling me you have no idea.

Best I can tell is they’re counted by crooked democrats.

 

[Sportello]

Best I can tell is they’re counted by crooked democrats.

It's more important to count the vote, than to actually vote. /s

 

[newolddude]

 

[vantexan]

Oh please, liberals have never forgiven Reagan for causing the collapse of the Soviet Union.

 

[Next Day Err]

Pretty much sums it all up.

 

[fishtm2001]

Oh please, liberals have never forgiven Reagan for causing the collapse of the Soviet Union.

that's funny

 

[fishtm2001]

Reagan’s defense buildup was not that meaningfully different from the 30 or so years of containment that preceded it. In fact, what particularly startled the Soviets in the last years of the Cold War was the increase in spending under Jimmy Carter, who restored funding to several high-tech defense programs following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979.

 

[newolddude]

 

[fishtm2001]

After years of railing against SALT, Reagan announced in 1982 that the U.S. would voluntarily observe the SALT II limits on strategic arms. He also continued to seek behind-the-scenes contact with the Soviet leadership, often in defiance of his closest allies, aghast at his secret pacifist streak. Reagan’s U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, for example, grumbled after the president’s reelection in 1984 that “the second Reagan administration threatens to be more Carter-like than the first.” In 1985, The Wall Street Journal labeled the president (in response to a hostage crisis in the Middle East) “Jimmy Reagan.”

 

[vantexan]

Reagan’s defense buildup was not that meaningfully different from the 30 or so years of containment that preceded it. In fact, what particularly startled the Soviets in the last years of the Cold War was the increase in spending under Jimmy Carter, who restored funding to several high-tech defense programs following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979.

Reagan spent more on defense than any previous president since the Korean War. So much so the USSR went broke trying to keep up.

 

[vantexan]

After years of railing against SALT, Reagan announced in 1982 that the U.S. would voluntarily observe the SALT II limits on strategic arms. He also continued to seek behind-the-scenes contact with the Soviet leadership, often in defiance of his closest allies, aghast at his secret pacifist streak. Reagan’s U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, for example, grumbled after the president’s reelection in 1984 that “the second Reagan administration threatens to be more Carter-like than the first.” In 1985, The Wall Street Journal labeled the president (in response to a hostage crisis in the Middle East) “Jimmy Reagan.”

Yet it was his policies that greatly contributed to ending the U.S.S.R.

 

[Next Day Err]

Reagan spent more on defense than any previous president since the Korean War. So much so the USSR went broke trying to keep up.

And yet there's all this fake concern about spending under 5% of our annual defense budget in service of making Putin cry uncle. Reagan would be absolutely ashamed of today's Republican Party.

 

[vantexan]

And yet there's all this fake concern about spending under 5% of our annual defense budget in service of making Putin cry uncle. Reagan would be absolutely ashamed of today's Republican Party.

And how much would the southern border wall have cost? You gladly spend hundreds of billions to protect Ukraine's borders but cry over spending 25 billion on our border. But then you're all for millions of unvetted people coming in illegally.

 

[Next Day Err]

But then you're all for millions of unvetted people coming in illegally

First, no.

And how much would the southern border wall have cost?

I don't know, ask Mexico. I guess it was too expensive for them.

You gladly spend hundreds of billions to protect Ukraine's borders but cry over spending 25 billion on our border.

Have I cried over spending $25 billion on our border security? Have I cried over this? Show me where I have cried, pal.

By the way, the Biden administration has asked for that $25 billion as far back as March. The do-nothing political grandstanding Republican Party doesn't actually care about the issue itself, they care about making a bunch of noise.