Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
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THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD
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You're going off into fantasy. Won't happen. And it's all because you want Trump imprisoned. At the point Biden had the CIA or whoever assassinate Trump or another top rival we devolve into full on civil war. Everyone knows this. If Trump gets assassinated before November expect the country to fall apart. It's not going to happen, and no president is going to argue he has immunity to do it.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
Unarmed middle aged men do not a revolution make.
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
trumps militias were never unarmed. Just ask them. If you can find out where they are hiding.
Trying to overturn an election doesn't seem like an official act that would be covered by some sort of Presidential immunity.
Uh huh. Yes, I remember them opening fire and over running the police. Not.
He thinks immunity is a get out of jail free card that allows the president to do whatever he likes.
HarryWarden
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And you don’t think we should have safe guards to protect that from happening?
You want Biden to not be held to the law. You keep saying “he can’t do that because of the constitution” but you can’t answer what would happen if he broke the constitution
Again, you are wayyyy too wrapped up in Biden vs trump and are not thinking big picture
Whatever, I guess agree to disagree. I feel that if Biden is president, and democrats control both the house and senate and say they won’t impeach him for anything, I think he should still have to follow the law, and if he breaks the law he should still be held accountable. You think Biden should have presidential immunity, and that as long as congress decides not to impeach him, he can do whatever he wants, and the only thing stopping him from breaking the law is threat of civil war. Crazy
HarryWarden
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That’s exactly what it is lmao, are you serious?
He has to obey the Constitution just like everyone else. He can't just ignore it and take away our rights. You live in a fantasy world.
Are you?
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
Trumps lawyers are arguing it is. They’re going even farther than that.
This is what trumps lawyers argued today in defense of presidential immunity
“If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military … to assassinate him, is that within his official acts for which he can get immunity?” Sotomayor asked.
“That could well be an official act,” Trump’s attorney, D. John Sauer, said.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
And he has to obey the constitution because it’s THE LAW. If he had PRESIDENTAL IMMUNITY, and BROKE THE LAW, what do you think happens next?
Who decides when the law is broken?
Takeaways from the Supreme Court arguments on Trump’s absolute immunity claims
"Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson spent much of the argument quizzing the attorneys on the potential implications of Trump’s absolute immunity position.
In one of the many hypotheticals the liberals tossed at Trump’s attorney, Kagan asked what would happen if a president ordered the military to stage a coup. Could that be prosecuted under Trump’s theory?
Sauer responded that a president would first have to be impeached and convicted before he could be charged criminally. Kagan fired back by asking what would happen if the order came on the final days of a presidency and there was not time to impeach or convict.
“You’re saying that’s an official act? That’s immune?” Kagan asked.
Sauer had to acknowledge that, under Trump’s theory, “it could well be.”
“That sure sounds bad, doesn’t it?” Kagan responded.
Echoing a more fundamental argument the special counsel raised earlier in the case, Jackson said she was concerned Trump’s argument would put presidents above the law.
“If there’s no threat of criminal prosecution, what prevents the president from just doing whatever he wants?” Jackson said. “I’m trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the Oval Office into the seat of criminal activity in this country.”
I've already said that Trump is likely to get limited immunity from SCOTUS. They aren't going to give the president the right to do whatever he pleases. And they aren't going to open up the presidency to frivolous or vindictive lawsuits where the president is afraid to make a decision for fear the opposition would ruin him when he leaves office.
Luckily greater judicial minds than hers are pointing out the likelihood of limited immunity. Unlike the Trump haters seeking to ruin Trump SCOTUS has to think about the effects on the presidency going forward.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
The destruction of the Republic continues.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Never mind Trump, or the democrats or republicans, as soon as the so called representatives realized there was money to be made from lobbyists, we were doomed…….And here we are.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
You’ve yet to answer this very simple question.
If the president breaks the law and the constitution, and congress refuses to impeach him, what do you think the next step should be?
