THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[rickyb]

Baloney. There can't be a continuous blank check nor can there be a continuous slaughter. Has to end. You run down Trump but what efforts were made under Biden to negotiate an end to the war?

biden did not as far as i know

dont think they ever really cared about ukraine it was just strategy. i feel like this is strategy too, but the strategy involves ending the war and its the right thing to do.

 

[Next Day Err]

what efforts were made under Biden to negotiate an end to the war?

Billions of dollars of materiel to crack Putin’s nose open and rub his face in the mud? All they have is a war time economy now and that won’t last forever. Keep hurting him is what I say. What we were doing was working.

3 days. That’s what Putin thought it would take. It’s been three years and he’s worse for it. GOOD.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Billions of dollars of materiel to crack Putin’s nose open and rub his face in the mud? All they have is a war time economy now and that won’t last forever. Keep hurting him is what I say. What we were doing was working.

3 days. That’s what Putin thought it would take. It’s been three years and he’s worse for it. GOOD.

I do appreciate that you're one of the only radical left wing Democrats willing to admit that you actually like the death and destruction because it's all about supporting a proxy war.

There's a lot of people who pretend they actually care about Ukrainians. Thanks for admitting you don't.

 

[Next Day Err]

I do appreciate that you're one of the only radical left wing Democrats willing to admit that you actually like the death and destruction because it's all about supporting a proxy war.

There's a lot of people who pretend they actually care about Ukrainians. Thanks for admitting you don't.

Dude, it wasn’t my choice for Putin to start this war. If the Ukranian people want to go on fighting and if they distrust the word of two liars then let them keep fighting.

 

[Next Day Err]

I do appreciate that you're one of the only radical left wing Democrats willing to admit that you actually like the death and destruction because it's all about supporting a proxy war.

There's a lot of people who pretend they actually care about Ukrainians. Thanks for admitting you don't.

Sounds like you’re advocating for weakness. Pretty sad.

 

[vantexan]

FFS go back and read my post again.
Just start over.

Every time with you it's like I'm talking to a toddler.

You think you can run over people to get your way. You naively believed Putin would've withdrawn three years ago with a peace deal. Seven rounds of negotiations and no deal. You saw Zelenskyy yesterday. He doesn't want to give up the Donbas. He wants more support to attempt to drive out the Russians. Not just about security guarantees. He said it wasn't just about territory. It was about people's homes. Where their parents and grandparents are buried. Doesn't mean anything to you but it does them. At this point Trump should pull our military support and force him to come to the table before he loses his whole country. If Putin was hot to make a peace deal then why hasn't he? Why not just pull his troops and say they've done enough to insure Ukraine will never try again to join NATO. Nope, Putin wants the Donbas because of the ethnic Russians there. He wants the whole country but he'll settle for the Donbas. Which by the way also has large rare earth deposits as well as a lot of industry(at least before the war).

 

[vantexan]

Billions of dollars of materiel to crack Putin’s nose open and rub his face in the mud? All they have is a war time economy now and that won’t last forever. Keep hurting him is what I say. What we were doing was working.

3 days. That’s what Putin thought it would take. It’s been three years and he’s worse for it. GOOD.

What Biden did was get almost a million dead and wounded and a battlefield stalemate. When did the Democrats start supporting war?

 

[Next Day Err]

Zelensky wasted little time before flying back to Europe and meet with the globalists pulling his strings.

Just what Putin is saying. I’m sure he is pleased that westerners like you agree with his lies.

 

[Next Day Err]

You think you can run over people to get your way. You naively believed Putin would've withdrawn three years ago with a peace deal. Seven rounds of negotiations and no deal. You saw Zelenskyy yesterday. He doesn't want to give up the Donbas. He wants more support to attempt to drive out the Russians. Not just about security guarantees. He said it wasn't just about territory. It was about people's homes. Where their parents and grandparents are buried. Doesn't mean anything to you but it does them. At this point Trump should pull our military support and force him to come to the table before he loses his whole country. If Putin was hot to make a peace deal then why hasn't he? Why not just pull his troops and say they've done enough to insure Ukraine will never try again to join NATO. Nope, Putin wants the Donbas because if the ethnic Russians there. He wants the whole country but he'll settle for the Donbas. Which by the way also has large rare earth deposits as well as a lot of industry(at least before the war).

Talking some sense here.

It’s complicated but DIDO doesn’t see the big deal.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Sounds like you’re advocating for weakness. Pretty sad.

Take a midol, I simply said I appreciate you being honest about your love of this proxy war and disregard for the people suffering.

Learn to take a compliment my radical left wing extremist friend.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You think you can run over people to get your way. You naively believed Putin would've withdrawn three years ago with a peace deal. Seven rounds of negotiations and no deal. You saw Zelenskyy yesterday. He doesn't want to give up the Donbas. He wants more support to attempt to drive out the Russians. Not just about security guarantees. He said it wasn't just about territory. It was about people's homes. Where their parents and grandparents are buried. Doesn't mean anything to you but it does them. At this point Trump should pull our military support and force him to come to the table before he loses his whole country. If Putin was hot to make a peace deal then why hasn't he? Why not just pull his troops and say they've done enough to insure Ukraine will never try again to join NATO. Nope, Putin wants the Donbas because of the ethnic Russians there. He wants the whole country but he'll settle for the Donbas. Which by the way also has large rare earth deposits as well as a lot of industry(at least before the war).

Literally has nothing to do with my post.

You're unhinged.

 

[Next Day Err]

Take a midol, I simply said I appreciate you being honest about your love of this proxy war and disregard for the people suffering.

Learn to take a compliment my radical left wing extremist friend.

I don’t love this proxy war but I respect the decision of a country that’s friendly with the United States that wants to fight on after being brutally attacked.

I don’t love appeasing a former KGB spy and murderer and kidnapper of Americans.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

I don’t love this proxy war

You said you did.
Right here:

Billions of dollars of materiel to crack Putin’s nose open and rub his face in the mud? All they have is a war time economy now and that won’t last forever. Keep hurting him is what I say. What we were doing was working.

3 days. That’s what Putin thought it would take. It’s been three years and he’s worse for it. GOOD.

"We" are hurting Putin, and that's all that matters.
Screw the people who suffer.
Bloodthirsty Democrats.

 

[Pullman Brown]

 

[tourists24]

Yep. Let them destroy themselves and let the Ukrainians fight back what’s been stolen from them if that’s what they want to do.

Make Putin come to us and Europe and Ukraine for a deal. Don’t come to him with a proposal. It’s pure weakness.

I guess I can’t disagree with that, although Ukraine will fall much quicker by themselves. But it does keep us from going to Putin, at least for now

 

[Pullman Brown]

It would do the American people a lot of good if they understood the history of Russia and Ukraine. It goes all the way back to the 13th Century. The Ukraine area all used to be one people with the Russian people speaking the same language. And what Zelensky has done is against all the fathers of Ukrainian nationalists. They all said to keep good relations with Russia!

 

[Next Day Err]

I guess I can’t disagree with that, although Ukraine will fall much quicker by themselves. But it does keep us from going to Putin, at least for now

They won’t be by themselves when Europe steps up even more. They’ve outspent us in support already and will definitely do even more now.

 

[tourists24]

They won’t be by themselves when Europe steps up even more. They’ve outspent us in support already and will definitely do even more now.

I’m guessing that will be Zelensky‘s next move if he gives up on the US. Will be interesting to watch that play out

 

[vantexan]

Literally has nothing to do with my post.

You're unhinged.

You keep telling yourself that sunshine. Is that what the younger generations are doing these days, pitching fits instead of logically discussing anything? God help us all.

 

[Thebrownblob]

They won’t be by themselves when Europe steps up even more. They’ve outspent us in support already and will definitely do even more now.

Good luck with that and have had it! It’s really not our fight anyway let them do it