THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

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Legio patria nostra
If you were to write Trump a letter about what we should do about the war in Ukraine, what would you say?
Probably use some tactic like this
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Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
If you were to write Trump a letter about what we should do about the war in Ukraine, what would you say?
I know!!


Dear present Trump,

California knows how to party
California knows how to party
In the citaaay of L.A
In the citaaay of good ol' Watts
In the citaaay, the city of Compton
We keep it rockin! We keep it rockin

Now let me welcome everybody to the wild, wild west
A state that's untouchable like Elliot Ness
The track hits ya eardrum like a slug to ya chest
Pack a vest for your Jimmy in the city of sex
We in that sunshine state with a bomb ass hemp beat
The state where ya never find a dance floor empty
And pimps be on a mission for them greens
Lean mean money-makin-machines servin fiends
I been in the game for ten years makin rap tunes
Ever since honeys was wearin sassoon
Now it's '95 and they clock me and watch me
Diamonds shinin lookin like I robbed Liberace
It's all good, from Diego to tha Bay
Your city is tha bomb if your city makin pay
Throw up a finger if ya feel the same way
Dre puttin it down for
Californ-i-a

Shake it shake it baby
Shake it shake it baby
Shake it shake it mama
Shake it Cali
Shake it shake it baby
Shake it shake it shake it shake it

Out on bail fresh outta jail, California dreamin
Soon as I stepped on the scene, I'm hearin hoochies screamin
Fiendin for money and alcohol
The life of a west side playa where cowards die
Only in Cali where we riot not rally to live and die
In L.A. we wearin Chucks not Ballies (that's right)
Dressed in Locs and khaki suits and ride is what we do
Flossin but have caution we collide with other crews
Famous cause we program worldwide
Let'em recognize from Long Beach to Rose Grands
Bumpin and grindin like a slow jam, it's west side
So you know the row won't bow down to no man
Say what you say
But give me that bomb beat from Dre
Let me serenade the streets of L.A
From Oakland to Sacktown
The Bay Area and back down
Cali is where they put they mack down
Give me love

California love
California knows how to party
California knows how to party
In the citaaay of L.A
In the citaaay of good ol' Watts
In the citaaay, the city of Compton
We keep it rockin! We keep it rockin

Now make it shake
Shake it shake it baby
Shake it shake it baby
Shake it shake it mama
Shake it Cali
Shake it shake it baby
Shake it shake it shake it shake it

Uh, yeah, uh, longbeach in tha house, uh yeah
Oaktown, Oakland definately in tha house hahaha
Frisko, Frisko
Hey, you know LA is up in this
Pasadina, where you at
Yeah, Ingelwood, Ingelwood always up to no good
Even Hollywood tryin to get a piece baby
Sacramento, sacramento where ya at? yeah

Throw it up y'all, throw it up, Throw it up
Let's show these fools how we do this on that west side
Cause you and I know it's tha best side

Yeah, That's riight
West coast, west coast
Uh, California Love
California Love

Love your friend @MAKAVELI
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
And as Trump pointed out he gave the Ukrainians Javelins but Obama gave them sheets. But he's saying now that the war should have never happened and wouldn't have if he had been president. It's time to settle things and have peace. Nothing weak about this. Or do you want to see many more people die before getting the same result anyways?
2 things I don’t understand that Trump supporters always say, with all due respect

1. They criticize Obama for not doing enough and NOT sending weapons, while also criticizing Biden for sending weapons.

2. The continuous claim that the invasion would not have happened if Trump was President. Why wouldn’t it have happened? What would have been the consequence for Russia by Trump had they invaded under his watch?
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
I don’t think we should be giving money to either, but I understand Israel has more strategic value.
Fair enough, but our military professionals say that Ukraine has just as much strategic value. It’s very rare for democrats and republicans to vote together on issues, and when you have the new Republican speaker of the house basically begging saying we need to do this, I think it’s worth looking at from different perspectives

 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
2 things I don’t understand that Trump supporters always say, with all due respect

1. They criticize Obama for not doing enough and NOT sending weapons, while also criticizing Biden for sending weapons.

2. The continuous claim that the invasion would not have happened if Trump was President. Why wouldn’t it have happened? What would have been the consequence for Russia by Trump had they invaded under his watch?
Not really a Trump supporter or detractor

1 not really as much criticism, but pointing out how hypocritical the Democrats are. They lost more land in Ukraine than Republicans.

2. Putin did not respect or fear Joe Biden he does Trump and he has no idea what Trump may or may not do if he crosses him.

A lot of this is predicated on the idea that Democrats actually care about Ukraine
Which is completely laughable. They cared about making their friends rich and laundering money the extra effect of sending Ukrainian soldiers to die in order to weaken Russia was just a little extra fun for them.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Fair enough, but our military professionals say that Ukraine has just as much strategic value. It’s very rare for democrats and republicans to vote together on issues, and when you have the new Republican speaker of the house basically begging saying we need to do this, I think it’s worth looking at from different perspectives

It has strategic value for Europe, but that’s their problem., And Trump tried to get Zelinski to make an agreement for the minerals, but Zelinski decided to be a punk and make himself a fool. I wouldn’t talk to Zelinski ever again. If I was Trump, Ukraine doesn’t have to have a new president, but they do not have to send that maroon to negotiate. You better read the room a little better president Zelinski.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
2 things I don’t understand that Trump supporters always say, with all due respect

1. They criticize Obama for not doing enough and NOT sending weapons, while also criticizing Biden for sending weapons.

2. The continuous claim that the invasion would not have happened if Trump was President. Why wouldn’t it have happened? What would have been the consequence for Russia by Trump had they invaded under his watch?
Trump had already told Putin during his first term that invading Ukraine was unacceptable. Biden not only watched the Russian buildup on the Ukrainian border but said he was ok with "a small incursion." Then turned around and started spending tens of billions to send Ukraine weapons. Most of that was spent on our defense contractors. That's the crux of the matter. We're getting into these forever wars where over time trillions are spent and our soldiers get killed. And why Trump was unpopular with the Pentagon brass. Those generals count on playing ball with the contractors so that they can land fat paychecks with them after they retire. But Trump was trying to get us out of wars and not start any new ones. The war in Ukraine is everything that's wrong with our system. Spending money we don't have while getting people killed that should've never even seen the violence. I was all for Ukraine defending its sovereignty from the bigger, more powerful country. But what would've been better is we took a stand, actually drawing a red line we enforced.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Not really a Trump supporter or detractor

1 not really as much criticism, but pointing out how hypocritical the Democrats are. They lost more land in Ukraine than Republicans.

2. Putin did not respect or fear Joe Biden he does Trump and he has no idea what Trump may or may not do if he crosses him.

A lot of this is predicated on the idea that Democrats actually care about Ukraine
Which is completely laughable. They cared about making their friends rich and laundering money the extra effect of sending Ukrainian soldiers to die in order to weaken Russia was just a little extra fun for them.
If Putin fears and respects Trump, why doesn’t he leave Ukraine now?
 
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