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Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Is the point of NATO to have a mafia style protection racket in place? To have Europe rely on us so we can tell them what to do? Sounds like you’re saying it is.
The point of NATO was to have America build the ultimate military capability, share the cost with European countries, and defend them in order to prevent their ability to militarize and possibly start WW3.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Warren Buffets son has donated over $500 million to Ukraine

“People lose interest over time, so keeping this going is tough," Buffett said.


"And it's going to be one of the biggest mistakes that the United States makes historically if we don't continue to support Ukraine."

 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
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Is the point of NATO to have a mafia style protection racket in place? To have Europe rely on us so we can tell them what to do? Sounds like you’re saying it is.
It was the application of a bribery scheme by which we formalized Europe following our lead by doing what we wanted trade wise and letting us do the heavy lifting when it came to running security. So yeah, kinda? But we didn’t extort but really made it clear to our enemies that we weren’t :censored2:ing around. We didn’t do have to constantly threaten our friends like the mafia would by collecting their little payments.

I’m not saying it’s a bad idea to get our friends to pony up more. I’m saying be careful what you wish for. If they do decide to spend a lot more on militarization then we can’t expect them to always do what we want into the future nearly as easily. Blowback is a thing.

It’s good to be the leader but I get it that’s it a weight to bear. Putin desperately wants us out of the European picture. We’re fools to lose what we have.
 
Doesn't change the fact that they've been free to spend their money on other things while the U.S. has bore the burden of their defense.
That was the whole point. We got our way with telling them to not fight amongst each other and hey-by-the-way-use-our-system-of-trade-and-economic-growth and we'll do the heavier lifting of security. We got to put missile defense systems and military bases in countries that never would have agreed to that kind of thing before 1945.

Conservatives used to love NATO for good reason. We got to throw our muscle around in exchange for PEACE IN EUROPE which I'm sure you know from your studies of history was a rare thing.

Peace means lots of trade. Lots of trade means prosperity. Lots of prosperity means a more contended people. Lots of contented people means... more peace and trade... but it also means we tend to take for granted what all these systems like NATO brought us.

I'm sad to see people turn their backs slowly but surely on NATO as more MAGA leadership openly rag on it.
 
Our “defense”, of Ukraine is non-binding as well.
Absolutely agree. It's non-binding but a great value. We got to punch Putin in the teeth for $20 a year per taxpayer.

Remember who started the war. Putin started it and we should help finish it on our terms, which should be terms more favorable to Ukraine. Right now we're completely turning our backs on Ukraine. No aid, no intelligence to their defense effort. It's disgusting in my view.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Warren Buffets son has donated over $500 million to Ukraine

“People lose interest over time, so keeping this going is tough," Buffett said.


"And it's going to be one of the biggest mistakes that the United States makes historically if we don't continue to support Ukraine."

Looks like him and daddy make a lot of money on war while the poor people get to fight and die. Are you really shocked when the war pigs and the billionaires want to continue making their billions? Of all the things this clown could donate to this is what he donates to…death and war? What an amazing man.😂🙄 it’s disgusting. that wasn’t a donation it was investment.


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“Companies under the ownership of Vectura Holding Co., another New York-based group, got deals to the tune of $1 billion, while companies controlled by Berkshire Hathaway, led by billionaire investor Warren Buffett, won contracts worth $688 million. Companies owned by Green Equity Investors II LP ($275 million) and Gores Technology Group ($153 million) also received substantial defense money.”
 
Looks like him and daddy make a lot of money on war while the poor people get to fight and die. Are you really shocked when the war pigs and the billionaires want to continue making their billions? Of all the things this clown could donate to this is what he donates to…death and war? What an amazing man.😂🙄 it’s disgusting.


Mhttps://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/BERKSHIRE-HATHAWAY-INC-11915/news/Berkshire-Hathaway-s-Fechheimer-Brothers-Gets-Up-to-16-Million-Modification-to-US-Defense-Logistics-43599052/



“Companies under the ownership of Vectura Holding Co., another New York-based group, got deals to the tune of $1 billion, while companies controlled by Berkshire Hathaway, led by billionaire investor Warren Buffett, won contracts worth $688 million. Companies owned by Green Equity Investors II LP ($275 million) and Gores Technology Group ($153 million) also received substantial defense money.”
The Buffetts didn't start this war, a war pig named Vladimir Putin did.
 
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