THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[Thebrownblob]

It’s simple. He wouldn’t do anything. He was president the entire time the war in the Donbas region was going on. He didn’t stop that and it was small time compared to this. He can’t stop anything is the bottom line.

Well, that war started in 2014. We stayed out of it as we should. And saying he wouldn’t do anything not giving him much credit for being the only one in the last three years to try to put an end to this war. The only thing that can happen with this war is escalation, dragging the rest of the world along with it.

That doesn’t benefit us and neither did this war. Just like Barack Obama said Ukraine is not a a “core interest” to the United States. But it is a core interest to Russia, and they will always have dominance there.

 

[Doublestandards]

Really can’t stuff the genie back in the bottle at this point. You can’t make a mess of something and then say hey why can’t this guy clean it up now? Lol not how it works.

When that guy campaigned on ending it in 24 hours and all of his supporters say Putin fears and respects him, sure you can

I just don’t understand what Trump would have done differently to stop the invasion.

 

[Thebrownblob]

When that guy campaigned on ending it in 24 hours and all of his supporters say Putin fears and respects him, sure you can

I just don’t understand what Trump would have done differently to stop the invasion.

He’s politician he also said eggs would come down in a week lol. They have come down, but not that much.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I just don’t understand what Trump would have done differently that would have deterred Putin. I hear that point a lot

Would he have given even more weapons? Send American troops? Bomb Russia? I just don’t get that point is all

And I don’t think Putin thought Trump would bomb Syria in 2018 with the Russians there, but he did.
I guarantee you that was a big shock to Putin.

Pompeo: U.S. Killed 'Couple Hundred' Russians in Syria

"The Russians met their match," said CIA Director Mike Pompeo, who has been nominated for secretary of state.

www.newsweek.com

The Trump administration just confirmed the US military killed 'hundreds' of Russians in lopsided fight in Syria

"In Syria now, a handful of weeks ago, the Russians met their match," said Pompeo. "A couple hundred Russians were killed."

www.businessinsider.com

Vladimir Putin calls US-led Syria strikes an 'act of aggression'

Russia says it will convene emergency session of UN security council in response to attack

www.theguardian.com

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/trump-missiles-tweet/index.html

 

[Doublestandards]

And I don’t think Putin thought Trump would bomb Syria in 2018 with the Russians there, but he did.
I guarantee you that was a big shock to Putin.

Pompeo: U.S. Killed 'Couple Hundred' Russians in Syria

"The Russians met their match," said CIA Director Mike Pompeo, who has been nominated for secretary of state.

www.newsweek.com

The Trump administration just confirmed the US military killed 'hundreds' of Russians in lopsided fight in Syria

"In Syria now, a handful of weeks ago, the Russians met their match," said Pompeo. "A couple hundred Russians were killed."

www.businessinsider.com

Vladimir Putin calls US-led Syria strikes an 'act of aggression'

Russia says it will convene emergency session of UN security council in response to attack

www.theguardian.com

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/trump-missiles-tweet/index.html

Why do you think Putin wouldn’t think Trump would bomb Syria?

 

[DELACROIX]

And I don’t think Putin thought Trump would bomb Syria in 2018 with the Russians there, but he did.
I guarantee you that was a big shock to Putin.

Pompeo: U.S. Killed 'Couple Hundred' Russians in Syria

"The Russians met their match," said CIA Director Mike Pompeo, who has been nominated for secretary of state.

www.newsweek.com

The Trump administration just confirmed the US military killed 'hundreds' of Russians in lopsided fight in Syria

"In Syria now, a handful of weeks ago, the Russians met their match," said Pompeo. "A couple hundred Russians were killed."

www.businessinsider.com

Vladimir Putin calls US-led Syria strikes an 'act of aggression'

Russia says it will convene emergency session of UN security council in response to attack

www.theguardian.com

Putin is a thug...thugs only understand power...Biden/Harris/Obama were patsies in his hands...Men fear other Men when it comes down to push and shove, it has always been that way since Day 1. Biden was a mentality challenged Old Man, weak in every category, Harris is a woman.. in most of our enemies' cultures and religions they are considered as goats or subhuman, Obama was just a cultural bump on their radar, a bit feminine to say the least. Our despots have and will always be drooling when a Democrat gets into office, they are so predictable and easy....

 

[Thebrownblob]

Why do you think Putin wouldn’t think Trump would bomb Syria?

You said it yourself he’s a nuclear power. He wasn’t gonna go against Russia according to you. I doubt Putin thought he would do it either.

 

[vantexan]

This is like listening to people who never played football in their lives be Monday Morning Quarterbacks.

Yeah, cut it out already.

 

[vantexan]

If Trump isn’t doing it now why would he do it then?

I just don’t understand it man, it’s not just you I’m talking to cuz I’ve heard this point a lot

But conservative talking point is we shouldn’t be involved Russia is a nuclear power start world war 3 and what not, but then we give trump credit and say Trump would have stopped the invasion. But how?!

We’re criticizing the west for supplying weapons so can’t say he would do that

We’re very against sending troops so he wouldn’t go that
They’re a nuclear power and that’s the big point so I highly doubt Trump would have bombed Russia for invading Ukraine

Just seems like a weak point to me is all.

I can understand not supporting sending Ukraine weapons, but I can’t understand saying Trump would have stopped it

Here we go. Trump just came into office. How come egg prices didn't come down immediately? How come gas prices aren't way down yet? How come he didn't end the Ukraine War in 24 hours?

Trump told Putin in his first term that Putin better not invade Ukraine when Putin mentioned it. What mattered is Putin had seen how Trump handled things and believed Trump would do whatever needed to stop the invasion. Then along came Biden. Totally screwed up the Afghanistan withdrawal. Said out loud he'd be ok with a small incursion into Ukraine by the Russians. What mattered is Putin saw how Biden handled things. Result? Trump now has been put into the position of cleaning up the mess.

 

[vantexan]

It’s simple. He wouldn’t do anything. He was president the entire time the war in the Donbas region was going on. He didn’t stop that and it was small time compared to this. He can’t stop anything is the bottom line.

Hey Monday morning quarterback. The Donbas was a low level war with fighting between the Ukrainians and ethnic Russian separatists who were supported by Putin. Obama gave the Ukrainians bedding, Trump gave them Javelin missiles. Why do you think Putin invaded in '22? The Ukrainians were winning. As was pointed out Trump wasn't the president during the entirety of that conflict. But hey, any chance to smear Trump...

 

[Doublestandards]

Putin is a thug...thugs only understand power...Biden/Harris/Obama were patsies in his hands...

but the biggest criticism republicans have been giving Biden admin is for supplying too much weapons to Ukraine

There is just so much double speak it doesn’t make sense

Biden admin is weak but they’re also war hungry

 

[Doublestandards]

You said it yourself he’s a nuclear power. He wasn’t gonna go against Russia according to you. I doubt Putin thought he would do it either.

Obama and Biden both bombed Syria though

I just don’t understand this logic. Biden is too weak but he’s war hungry. Putin fears Trump but didn’t expect him to bomb Syria. We shouldn’t be involved in Ukraine because it’s none of our business, but Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine under Trump because he would have done more?

 

[Doublestandards]

Here we go. Trump just came into office. How come egg prices didn't come down immediately? How come gas prices aren't way down yet? How come he didn't end the Ukraine War in 24 hours?

Trump told Putin in his first term that Putin better not invade Ukraine when Putin mentioned it. What mattered is Putin had seen how Trump handled things and believed Trump would do whatever needed to stop the invasion. Then along came Biden. Totally screwed up the Afghanistan withdrawal. Said out loud he'd be ok with a small incursion into Ukraine by the Russians. What mattered is Putin saw how Biden handled things. Result? Trump now has been put into the position of cleaning up the mess.

How much longer are you going to give Trump to make things right to North Carolina? That was one of your biggest criticisms of Biden that he didn’t give them enough and you said it was still too early for Trump he just got in office? How much longer?

 

[Doublestandards]

Hey Monday morning quarterback. The Donbas was a low level war with fighting between the Ukrainians and ethnic Russian separatists who were supported by Putin. Obama gave the Ukrainians bedding, Trump gave them Javelin missiles. Why do you think Putin invaded in '22? The Ukrainians were winning. As was pointed out Trump wasn't the president during the entirety of that conflict. But hey, any chance to smear Trump...

Obama gets criticized for not giving enough to Ukraine, Biden gets criticized for giving too much, but how convenient Trump did everything perfect

 

[Thebrownblob]

Obama and Biden both bombed Syria though

I just don’t understand this logic. Biden is too weak but he’s war hungry. Putin fears Trump but didn’t expect him to bomb Syria. We shouldn’t be involved in Ukraine because it’s none of our business, but Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine under Trump because he would have done more?

Did he?? What don’t you understand? Why didn’t he? Just dumb luck, huh? Trump went directly after Russian soldiers even Putin called it an acti of aggression.

 

[vantexan]

why is it whenever I bring up a certain point that goes against yours you bring up unrelated cases?


“It wasn't Trump who said it on FOX that led to that lawsuit. “

Trump and his team were the #1 spreader of “Evidence of massive election fraud”

Do you not remember Powell and the crazy pillow guy and all the rest? Trump every day saying the election was rigged and they were going to show it soon? How many times did we hear 2 more weeks? The kraken?

Because you had it wrong. Trump supporters(on his team) said they believed voting machines were rigged. FOX allowed it to be said and got the lawsuit. The funny thing is Tucker Carlson was very skeptical about the machines being rigged and yet Dominion agreed to take $750 million instead of $1.5 billion if FOX fired Tucker. Liberals had been gunning for him for years and FOX threw him under the bus to save that money.

And I didn't bring up a different case.

 

[vantexan]

Obama gets criticized for not giving enough to Ukraine, Biden gets criticized for giving too much, but how convenient Trump did everything perfect

Biden didn't give too much to Ukraine. Most of the money went to our defense contractors. And they slow walked weapons to Ukraine, denying them weapons systems that would be more effective.

 

[vantexan]

How much longer are you going to give Trump to make things right to North Carolina? That was one of your biggest criticisms of Biden that he didn’t give them enough and you said it was still too early for Trump he just got in office? How much longer?

Biden was basically ignoring them. Trump went to NC his first week. I don't know what's going on there now but I sure don't hear them complaining like before.

 

[Doublestandards]

Because you had it wrong. Trump supporters(on his team) said they believed voting machines were rigged. FOX allowed it to be said and got the lawsuit. The funny thing is Tucker Carlson was very skeptical about the machines being rigged and yet Dominion agreed to take $750 million instead of $1.5 billion if FOX fired Tucker. Liberals had been gunning for him for years and FOX threw him under the bus to save that money.

And I didn't bring up a different case.

So Trump and his team said elections were rigged and they had no evidence. And Fox News got hit with almost a billion dollars in fines

Nothing I said was wrong lol

 

[Doublestandards]

Biden was basically ignoring them. Trump went to NC his first week. I don't know what's going on there now but I sure don't hear them complaining like before.

lol. Ok

So Trump went there, you don’t know what they did, but they don’t seem to be complaining, so it’s alright