cachmeifucan
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Ups will manipulate any new language or jobs created and then we will have to wait until next contract to address issues. Just vote no has everyone seen enough to get the vote no time shirts.
The more I think about this the more I see it pretty much eliminating most OT completely. There will be no such thing as extra work anymore to protect by language. They will create as many 22.4 drivers as they need to get everyone at 40 hours. Late start times for them will take care of anything left behind as well as cover late pickups.
Then why bother creating them at all? If there the only ones delivering on Saturday as well, they need to create as many jobs as they will run sat routes at the very least. No?On the surface that may appear like what could happen but when you factor in all the extra costs associated with all these new “drivers” I’m not sure it will pay them to create many 22.4’s. Things like more trucks, workers comp insurance, fuel, pension contribution, healthcare, diads, etc.
On August 1 2022 a new hire will make 15.50 an hour. Starts at 13, goes up each year.Because it's the same work. Moreover, it's likely to include weekend work which current drivers apparently don't want to do. Perhaps there should be a premium on those days...or maybe that makes too much sense.
They failed miserably in doing so regarding PT wages, a major issue that everyone, including FTers, mentioned when proposals were being taken.
$13.00/hr? Lots of places will have minimum wages above that rate before the term of the contract is over. Some already do. This is a massive failure by the negotiating committee, imo.
The Teamsters support the fight for $15 movement for fast food workers, but apparently not for UPS workers. Can't even break $14.00 for its own members. Pathetic.
You sound like you don't have a good record or history of quality contract enforcement in your local.Ups will manipulate any new language or jobs created and then we will have to wait until next contract to address issues. Just vote no has everyone seen enough to get the vote no time shirts.
Good point about the start times. I think it is worth looking into protecting RPCD morning start times. I could see this being a potential problem.The more I think about this the more I see it pretty much eliminating most OT completely. There will be no such thing as extra work anymore to protect by language. They will create as many 22.4 drivers as they need to get everyone at 40 hours. Late start times for them will take care of anything left behind as well as cover late pickups.
Then why bother creating them at all? If there the only ones delivering on Saturday as well, they need to create as many jobs as they will run sat routes at the very least. No?On the surface that may appear like what could happen but when you factor in all the extra costs associated with all these new “drivers” I’m not sure it will pay them to create many 22.4’s. Things like more trucks, workers comp insurance, fuel, pension contribution, healthcare, diads, etc.
We are pretty happy with our local but it could always be betterYou sound like you don't have a good record or history of quality contract enforcement in your local.
Is this the case?
I think the penalty is having to hire 3 more full-time drivers for every new 22.4 driver after the 25%.No language for any penalties for going over the 25%???
Don't agree.I’m thinking this is to replace us with hybrids as we retire.
No man is perfect.With
We are pretty happy with our local but it could always be better
I’m thinking this is to replace us with hybrids as we retire.
No man is perfect.
Nor is any system or organization created by man.
And it will cost UPS more to do that.The more I think about this the more I see it pretty much eliminating most OT completely. There will be no such thing as extra work anymore to protect by language. They will create as many 22.4 drivers as they need to get everyone at 40 hours. Late start times for them will take care of anything left behind as well as cover late pickups.
This thread doesn't state "On Topic" in the title so that would not apply here.Every thread topic you start, notates "on Topic".
But yet, you always want to interject posts.... deferring to religious beliefs.
I find it offensive.
-Bug-