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BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
You don't want to face the facts that these brown shirt thugs are socialists.

And Hitler's brown shirt thugs were socialists.

Trump is not socialist.

And there is where your scenario and reality are totally seperated.

And Trump's supporters are not showing up at other candidate's rallies causing problems.

Are they?

Hitler was a Socialist?

Brown Shirts were Socialists?

Lulz.

Hitler hated both Socialism and Communism.

You don't know your d* from your a*.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
You can't spend all of your time on one child that does not have the god given intelligence that most of us have.


Honestly does a child who is considered (mentally retarded) belong with a regular class of students?

Or should he or she be in a.school that can focus on their needs?
..

You tell me?
We tried the route you're talking about for decades, those schools that "focus on their needs". The children were cheated out of an education. It just flat out didn't work.

Education experts decided inclusion was the better option. That being said, this approach is only as good as the educators that implement it.
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
You can't spend all of your time on one child that does not have the god given intelligence that most of us have.


Honestly does a child who is considered (mentally retarded) belong with a regular class of students?

Or should he or she be in a.school that can focus on their needs?
..

You tell me?
That is why we need State sponsored education. Some people can be scientists, and a few of god's children need to learn how to go to the bathroom and eat without assistance. If they can't learn that, then we should have people that do it for them, with dignity.
 
We tried the route you're talking about for decades, those schools that "focus on their needs". The children were cheated out of an education. It just flat out didn't work.

Education experts decided inclusion was the better option. That being said, this approach is only as good as the educators that implement it.
Seriously?

You can't take a mentally challenged kid and mix him in with a regular school room.

They all LOSE.
 

upschuck

Well-Known Member
We tried the route you're talking about for decades, those schools that "focus on their needs". The children were cheated out of an education. It just flat out didn't work.

Education experts decided inclusion was the better option. That being said, this approach is only as good as the educators that implement it.
Experts also thinks everyone needs a trophy, too.
 
That is why we need State sponsored education. Some people can be scientists, and a few of god's children need to learn how to go to the bathroom and eat without assistance. If they can't learn that, then we should have people that do it for them, with dignity.
I am not saying they don't need to learn.
They need to be in an environment that can give them what they need
They will not get that in the public education system.
Do you disagree?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Then why does everyone, everywhere get trophies? Some expert somewhere thought that was the way to raise their self esteem.
Everyone got trophies when I was growing up. Just figured it was the baby boomer generation's way of trying to feel like they accomplished something through their children. Who knows.... trophy industry conspiracy?
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
I am not saying they don't need to learn.
They need to be in an environment that can give them what they need
They will not get that in the public education system.
Do you disagree?
Yes, I do disagree. I have seen first hand what public (state sponsored) programs can do for special needs people. The primary purpose of government is to provide a better life for it's citizens. A special needs citizen should be provided a life with dignity.
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
Everyone got trophies when I was growing up. Just figured it was the baby boomer generation's way of trying to feel like they accomplished something through their children. Who knows.... trophy industry conspiracy?
Everyone got a black eye when I was growing up, or a broken bone if you weren't quick.
 
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